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alanfrew
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Posted Thu Feb 13, 2003, 11:00pm
Subject: Small Espresso Tweaks by Alan Frew
 

Small Espresso Tweaks
by Alan Frew

How small variations in inputs can make large differences in your espresso output.
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jim_schulman
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Posted Sat Feb 15, 2003, 8:18am
Subject: Thanks for the terrific research!
 

Thanks for taking the time to do this testing, rather than just making sure the 80 Silvias worked.

This isn't something a home user can duplicate, and it does, quite definitively, tell us what to look out for, and what not.

Jim
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Posted Sat Feb 15, 2003, 11:42am
Subject: Well done!
 

Thanks for the data -- confirms some things I have suspected but haven't been able to try empirically!
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Posted Sat Feb 15, 2003, 6:30pm
Subject: HUZZAH!
 

Thanks Alan!
As I continue to find the groove with my Giotto you give me some things to consider that had not come to mind.

Thanks for the effort and patience.

John
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Posted Tue Feb 18, 2003, 3:36am
Subject: Quantity IS the key!
 

Alan, I've found the same experience with my own Silvia (sorry, only have the one!).  Minute dose variations, which I can achieve with my Cunill Tranquilo grinder, can significantly vary the length, volume and crema in the shot.  It makes a bigger difference than small grind fineness variations.  I'd go as far as to say it's the key to success.  Not sure I'd stuff the filter basket nearly as full as you did, but I'll give that a go too!
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Posted Tue Feb 18, 2003, 5:15am
Subject: most interesting!
 

more clues to making great coffee.

in pursue of the elusive god shot.
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Posted Tue Feb 18, 2003, 4:02pm
Subject: Thanks again Alan!
 

First the dispersion screen discovery (see: Why Rancilio Silvia IS the best, 9/2000), and now this!  Well thought out, very impressive N, great photos, and, as always, a guide for the obsessed ;-)  

p.s. the Intermac Heavy Duty Timer ($10 at Home Depot) solves the leaving it on all night problem...
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Posted Sat Feb 22, 2003, 9:00am
Subject: I disagree.
 

Sorry, but I disagree with many of your findings.
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Posted Mon Feb 24, 2003, 11:17am
Subject: why
 

why do you disagree
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Posted Thu Feb 27, 2003, 12:22am
Subject: Very interesting
 

More of these articles, I have read it several times.
It always interesting to see comparison between different methods.

/Jerry
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