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BuzzedLightyear
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Posted Thu Sep 8, 2005, 4:31pm
Subject: Re: KitchenAid ProLine Grinder First Look
 

Mark

Most of the time when people post on the Espresso Machine and Grinder Forum about buying or upgrading a Espresso Machine, The Calvary of Espresso Veterans come in yelling "Get a Good Grinder!", " Get a good Grinder!"

Would you consider this a good grinder to stop the sabre rattling

Sorry to pick your Brain, But I have been waiting awhile for this review. I wanted to pick this grinder up this week but your review kind of left me sitting on the fence

 
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Posted Thu Sep 8, 2005, 8:29pm
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Yeah, this is a grinder I'm very confident in recommending.

For the Detailed Review, I may have some info on how to "hot rod" it a bit, as well. ;)

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Posted Fri Sep 9, 2005, 1:42am
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BuzzedLightyear Said:

Mark

Most of the time when people post on the Espresso Machine and Grinder Forum about buying or upgrading a Espresso Machine, The Calvary of Espresso Veterans come in yelling "Get a Good Grinder!", " Get a good Grinder!"

Would you consider this a good grinder to stop the sabre rattling

Sorry to pick your Brain, But I have been waiting awhile for this review. I wanted to pick this grinder up this week but your review kind of left me sitting on the fence

Posted September 8, 2005 link

Last week eh? I've been waiting for over a year for a bloody review on this thing! I saw it at Williams-Sonoma over a year ago, and I wanted to pick it up right off the shelf, but the better part of me knew to do some research first... I couldn't find any detailed reviews, so I ended up getting a Zassenhaus. (sigh.)

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Posted Fri Sep 9, 2005, 4:10am
Subject: Re: KitchenAid ProLine Grinder First Look
 

darkboron Said:

Last week eh? I've been waiting for over a year for a bloody review on this thing! I saw it at Williams-Sonoma over a year ago, and I wanted to pick it up right off the shelf, but the better part of me knew to do some research first... I couldn't find any detailed reviews, so I ended up getting a Zassenhaus. (sigh.)

Posted September 9, 2005 link

Why were you waiting on someone else to do the legwork for you?  Why didn't you just try it out yourself?  W/S has a very liberal return policy provided you keep the receipt.

Take it home, try it out, if you don't like it, throw it back in the box and get a refund.  

How hard is that?

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Posted Fri Sep 9, 2005, 8:06am
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Hey Scott

Relax Buddy, isnt half the purpose of coffeegeek.com is to help us eliminate the legwork

 
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Posted Fri Sep 9, 2005, 8:32am
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BuzzedLightyear Said:

Relax Buddy, isnt half the purpose of coffeegeek.com is to help us eliminate the legwork

Posted September 9, 2005 link

My point is that it sounds like Darren ended up with a grinder that he's not happy with (based on the "sigh.") because there wasn't a detailed review.  He could have--risk free--provided himself with live detailed review of the equipment.

There's no shame in returning a piece of equipment that you are not happy with, provided the return policy makes allowances for that.

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Posted Fri Sep 9, 2005, 2:46pm
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It is good to see KitchenAid enter a grinder into the specialty coffee market.  I've always adored their devotion to solid-built, quality appliances.  My wife's mother made a tradition to give each of her daughters a KitchenAid blender as a wedding gift.  Those are really nice.  

I think I first saw the KitchenAid grinder late last year in a specialty retail store, and was really excited about it, but I think that initial model scored low on the espresso grind. Hopefully this is a updated model.  The look and feel of this grinder is worthy of regard, alone.  I grind mostly for espresso, though, so I wonder if this grinder would have you playing with the settings constantly.  It looks like 'EspressoSnob' has had good luck with his.  Might want to contact him directly before making a purchase.  It's just not something you want to have to mess with when you're up in the morning making a drink before leaving for work.  You want it seamless.

I'd say if you brew mostly for press or drip, and you want quality, then get this grinder.  It'll last a couple of generations, I imagine, judging by KitchenAid standards.  You'll be able to pass it down to your children as a family heirloom!
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Posted Fri Sep 9, 2005, 4:21pm
Subject: Re: KitchenAid ProLine Grinder First Look
 

Well based on Marks review, I ran down to williams Sonoma tonight and picked one up

I have to say I was very dissapointed, it just would not grind fine enough for espresso, I even adjusted the internal gear to the most fine setting just before the gears rub and still no luck. Either Mark is on the take from Kitchen Aid (just kidding), or I got a dud, I will decide tonight wether to exchange it and try it again or get a full refund.

I do have to say this is an awesome grinder for drip or french press though, there was hardly any dust what so ever.

 
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Posted Fri Sep 9, 2005, 4:29pm
Subject: Re: KitchenAid ProLine Grinder First Look
 

BuzzedLightyear Said:

Well based on Marks review, I ran down to williams Sonoma tonight and picked one up

I have to say I was very dissapointed, it just would not grind fine enough for espresso, I even adjusted the internal gear to the most fine setting just before the gears rub and still no luck. Either Mark is on the take from Kitchen Aid (just kidding), or I got a dud, I will decide tonight wether to exchange it and try it again or get a full refund.

Posted September 9, 2005 link

I can't figure out an explanation for this. I demo'ed it to a few podcast guests and showed that even at a setting of 1.5 it could choke the La Marzocco (after I adjusted it with the black knob off).

I would experiment with it a bit more before returning it. I think WS has a good return policy, allowing you to have a week or more to fool around with it. perhaps run it with beans in it, then while it's running, adjust the white notch dial finer - there is a sorta "spring tension" on the adjustment dial that is influenced by no load / beans loaded. Adjusting it with no beans may not give you the same finer adjustment with beans, if that makes any sense.

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Posted Fri Sep 9, 2005, 5:37pm
Subject: Re: KitchenAid ProLine Grinder First Look
 

Thanks Mark,

but I cant adjust any further without the gears sounding like they are touching or grating each other, are you saying to ignore this sound and adjust till it is fine enough.

Even still, it seems according to your review you where able to choke the La Marzoco on setting number 8 right out of the box, or am I reading this wrong

 
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