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sinkr
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Espresso: Isomac Millennium-Plumbed
Grinder: La Cimbali Junior
Vac Pot: Cona Model D
Drip: Are you kidding?
Roaster: Hearthware Precision +...
Posted Tue Nov 4, 2003, 1:02pm
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CoffeeKid Said:

Hey folks. Thanks for the initial comments. Here's some followups:



I don't want to get it plumbed in :) Though I will cover that aspect in the detailed review.

Posted August 31, 2003 link

I just bought the Millennium, pretty-much on your initial review here, from Chris Coffee with a La Cimbali Junior Grinder (upgrading from a Sylvia & Rocky).

I also went ahead (and went overboard) and got the direct connect system, as well as the water softner and carbon filtration system.  I figured that I'd go for near-ultimate convenience, and I have to say that this convenience has paid off--especially during the break-in/acquaintance period--where a lot of water gets consumed.

I also like the idea that I can leave this machine on 24/7, though I'm weirded out a little by that aspect in terms of power consumption (though I understand its modest), as well as the fact that I'll probably be consuming more espresso.

All-in-all, given my considerable experience with Rocky and Sylvia and a Gaggia Paros, I found that dialing in the two as a combo was not nearly as involved as before, presumably from experience, and from the forgiving nature of the E61 group.

I can't really comment on the operation of the machine as a whole (yet), but I can say that the preinfusion does help, and it is very stunning on the counter, as well as a space hog.
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CraigA
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Espresso: PID/PressureMod 2001...
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Posted Tue Nov 4, 2003, 1:13pm
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Congratulation's on an awesome choice & upgrade Robert! {:-D

 
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Posted Tue Nov 4, 2003, 2:01pm
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sinkr Said:

I also like the idea that I can leave this machine on 24/7, though I'm weirded out a little by that aspect in terms of power consumption (though I understand its modest), as well as the fact that I'll probably be consuming more espresso.

Posted November 4, 2003 link

Great choice!  BTW, I estimated the per-hour cost for running my idle machine (1300W).  It comes out to about one cent an hour at $0.08 / kWH.  The start up cost is a bit higher, requiring almost four hours after full warmup to amortize.  I invested in a heavy duty programmable digital timer.  I added some insulation under the cup tray (the foam aluminum sided stuff) and it made an immediate measurable difference, reducing the on-cycle time by about 20%.

-- Dan

 
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Posted Tue Nov 4, 2003, 5:55pm
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I thought that a programmable timer would be just the ticket - most, though, are too light duty for this machine. Can you give some details regarding your timer - make, model, source.

Thanks!

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Posted Wed Nov 5, 2003, 5:12am
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It is the Intermatic Digital Timer, model DT17 (operating instructions).  It is rated for 15 amps and sold at Home Depot.  It was on sale for about $25 as I recall.

-- Dan

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Posted Wed Nov 5, 2003, 8:01am
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Hi Dan,

Thanks for your post!  I have been looking for a digital timer for the longest time, and I didnít find anything I like until now...I will go to Home Depot this weekend...

Excellent!

Steve
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Posted Tue Nov 11, 2003, 8:38am
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Got mine from Home Depot yesterday.  I paid $19.95 plus tax.  Dan, I am not sure about you, but I had trouble reading the instructions.  I think it is worse than the user's manual for Isomac Tea.  I gave up on instructions and programed it by playing around with it , and it worked.

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Posted Sat Nov 15, 2003, 8:16am
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"..... detriment in the home - the grouphead gets too hot if you don't brew for a while. This gives you bitter shots. The solution is either bang out lots of shots continuously (thus using the grouphead for the environment it was designed for), or run as much as four to six ounces or more of water through the group to get it back down to shot temperatures."


I thought that this is a home machine!!  How many shots are you gonna pull at once -- at home?
That is clearly unacceptable! A design flaw that should take it off the Xmas list for sure!

Hmpphh!

dave
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Drip: Bunn
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Posted Sat Nov 15, 2003, 8:28am
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dave713 Said:

"..... detriment in the home - the grouphead gets too hot if you don't brew for a while. This gives you bitter shots. The solution is either bang out lots of shots continuously (thus using the grouphead for the environment it was designed for), or run as much as four to six ounces or more of water through the group to get it back down to shot temperatures."


I thought that this is a home machine!!  How many shots are you gonna pull at once -- at home?
That is clearly unacceptable! A design flaw that should take it off the Xmas list for sure!

Hmpphh!

dave

Posted November 15, 2003 link

All the E61 grouphead machines are like this.  It's no big deal.  Really.
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Posted Sat Nov 15, 2003, 9:09am
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dan_kehn Said:

It is the Intermatic Digital Timer, model DT17 (operating instructions).  It is rated for 15 amps and sold at Home Depot.  It was on sale for about $25 as I recall.

-- Dan

Posted November 5, 2003 link

Does this timer allow you to turn something on for only 15 minutes?  All of the timers I've found require the item to be on/off in 30 minute increments and I want one that will allow me to have something on for 15 minutes each hour.
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