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javajax
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Posted Mon Jul 2, 2012, 7:44am
Subject: New Brewing Method
 

I have been following coffee geek on twitter for a while and have been looking at the reviews and guides for a while, but I have found something I have never heard before and wondering if anyone else has heard of this.

http://petegamache.com/post/26345881192/nitrous-oxide-coffee

It is making coffee with Nitrous Oxide
it is super simple and takes all of a  minute.
only thing is it a method that can potentially do a weeks worth of steeping.
I have no idea what the caffeine content is, but there are almost no acids extracted.

and thoughts.
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Posted Mon Jul 2, 2012, 8:23am
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Oh wow. That's really interesting. I'll have to try that. I can't help but be a bit skeptical, but I definitely want to try it.

-Dave-
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Posted Mon Jul 2, 2012, 8:26am
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Yeah it is an interesting method.  my buddy at work was playing with it and really likes it.

I know that this is used with liquors, but coffee is a whole new level.
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Posted Mon Jul 2, 2012, 8:41am
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Very Cool! I especially loved this statement… "I then released all the pressure, being extremely careful not to inhale any of it, extremely careful indeed." Hello, it's also know as "laughing gas"! :-O

Take care!

Jim

 
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Posted Mon Jul 2, 2012, 9:18am
Subject: Re: New Brewing Method
 

This is interesting. I am not sure how much coffee he is using. Three oz by volume seems like a lot for 8 oz coffee.

We could use this method to infuse coffee into anything!

 
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Posted Mon Jul 2, 2012, 5:17pm
Subject: Re: New Brewing Method
 

I can  see "Got Nos?" stickers of folks' coffee maker thingies...
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Posted Mon Jul 2, 2012, 5:58pm
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I've had iced cream made using liquid nitrogen but not this.

Odd indeed.

 
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Posted Mon Jul 2, 2012, 7:27pm
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Not new:

http://www.jimseven.com/2010/08/20/pressurised-cold-brewing/
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Posted Tue Jul 3, 2012, 1:47am
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jpender Said:

Not new:

http://www.jimseven.com/2010/08/20/pressurised-cold-brewing/

Posted July 2, 2012 link

...and certainly given his previous recipe description... perhaps not for those of us into specialty coffee - we tend to like acids and something resembling a drink rather than sludge.
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Posted Tue Jul 3, 2012, 7:53pm
Subject: Re: New Brewing Method
 

I propose it ain't a brewing method until we know:

Brew Ratio

End Strength.  Even an estimate of end strength (dry the grounds at least).


Otherwise, it's shooting in the dark.  

At 35% brew ratio, I get incredible strengths with cold brewing in a mason jar in a mere 10 minutes (very fine grind).  On the order of 5% or higher.   If I add a bit of heat, I can get higher strengths (we're talking maybe 120°F, not even close to brewing temperatures).  Taste is very similar to 12 and 24 hour steep times, with a definite lack of acidity and an instantly recognizable flavor profile.

But at these high brew ratios it's an incredible waste of coffee (IMHO).  Getting strong coffee flavor from a high brew ratio isn't a big deal.  Now, do it with a 5.5% brew ratio (.44oz of coffee : 8 oz of water) and get something drinkable and not incredibly weak, and I might be convinced.

I would bet a coffee the pressurizing doesn't do much.  I'll put it on my "list" of things to investigate, but it ain't high on it.  If anyone tries it, I'd recommend doing two - one with the new method and one in a mason jar, same brew ratio, same temperature water, same exposure time (with agitation in the mason jar), and compare the resulting measured strength.

Some processes of leaching or extraction use pressure on the solids BEFORE adding solvent (supposedly to open pores in the solids about to undergo dissolution), maybe there's something there - but if it were able to increase extraction with low temperature solvents that much, we'd all have high-pressure clothes washers.

 
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