CSG Senior Member Joined: 8 Feb 2002 Posts: 42 Location: Idaho Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Thu Aug 16, 2012, 8:30am Subject: Re: Victor coffee mugs--Yes!
The 7.5's *seem* to have slightly thinner walls but I'm going to have to get my calipers out to check.
I know someone who was selling the remaining stock of Victors talked about counterfeits on his site but the only reference to Chinese mugs that I ever found from an official source was a trade magazine article published in 2004 (?) that said Victor decided to cease production because of competition from the Chinese (Ultima, IIRC) and said nothing about their mugs being counterfeited with the Victor name imprinted on the bottom. I don't believe the counterfeit story at all or the whole serif/sans serif logo. Neither did anyone involved in a discussion about this issue on a restaurant ware discussion site.
The seller of these 7.5 oz mugs stated they were told that Victor didn't make 7.5 oz mugs (indeed they did) so they were probably fake.
CSG Senior Member Joined: 8 Feb 2002 Posts: 42 Location: Idaho Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Thu Aug 16, 2012, 10:13am Subject: Re: Victor coffee mugs--Yes!
I wanted to post a link to the story about Victor mugs that talked about Ultima making copies that were stamped "China" on the bottom. The Victor folks were convinced they took a Victor mug and made a copy of it but nowhere was the claim of counterfeiting the Victor logo.
Posted Thu Aug 16, 2012, 1:53pm Subject: Re: Victor coffee mugs--Yes!
Thanks for the link Chris!
I actually saved this page to "My Documents" folder back on July 24th one day after my order to Victor Mugs when I was doing some research on Victor mugs.
Posted Sun Aug 19, 2012, 6:14pm Subject: Re: Victor coffee mugs--Yes!
CSG Said:
The 7.5's *seem* to have slightly thinner walls but I'm going to have to get my calipers out to check.
I know someone who was selling the remaining stock of Victors talked about counterfeits on his site but the only reference to Chinese mugs that I ever found from an official source was a trade magazine article published in 2004 (?) that said Victor decided to cease production because of competition from the Chinese (Ultima, IIRC) and said nothing about their mugs being counterfeited with the Victor name imprinted on the bottom. I don't believe the counterfeit story at all or the whole serif/sans serif logo. Neither did anyone involved in a discussion about this issue on a restaurant ware discussion site.
The seller of these 7.5 oz mugs stated they were told that Victor didn't make 7.5 oz mugs (indeed they did) so they were probably fake.
I just re-measured the capacity of one of mine. My mugs are 20 ounces empty, and the one I just measured holds 7.5 ounces (weighed on a .1 gram scale) filled to the absolute rim. There is a weight variance of about .25 to .4 ounce across my mugs, so the capacity might also vary a very slight amount. I poured it in until just before it would have dribbled over.
(I usually drink a 6-ounce cup--another reason this is the perfect mug for me!)
I just re-measured the capacity of one of mine. My mugs are 20 ounces empty, and the one I just measured holds 7.5 ounces (weighed on a .1 gram scale) filled to the absolute rim. There is a weight variance of about .25 to .4 ounce across my mugs, so the capacity might also vary a very slight amount. I poured it in until just before it would have dribbled over.
(I usually drink a 6-ounce cup--another reason this is the perfect mug for me!)
CSG Senior Member Joined: 8 Feb 2002 Posts: 42 Location: Idaho Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Mon Aug 20, 2012, 6:49am Subject: Re: Victor coffee mugs--Yes!
lifeand peace, that's the place.
Yeah, the weight to volume capacity is out of whack. That's why mugs with similar height and width dimensions but thin walls hold more (like the Chinese stuff from Retro-Planet).
I was at an antique mall recently and one of the sellers had a Wallace mug that was even more massive than the typical Victor mugs. The walls on that thing seemed like they were nearly 1/2" thick! I was going to buy it but was afraid I wouldn't be able to lift it with coffee in it. ;o)
jpaquin Senior Member Joined: 16 Sep 2012 Posts: 1 Location: Fairport, NY Expertise: Just starting
Posted Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:09pm Subject: Re: Victor coffee mugs--Yes!
This whole thread made me smile :) I grew up in Victor and my neighbors and I would rummage around around the ceramics dump pile in back of Victor Insulators. At one point we had hundreds of mugs in my father's barn. We would tie a rope to a mug handle and then thread the more mugs on and then tie them to the beams. At some point he got rid of them all, I don't remember why.
A couple years ago the insulator plant sold off the remaining inventory, it might have been for the Victor Bicentennial, I don't recall.
But I bought a case of the green striped mugs. That case is HEAVY.
After reading this thread I had to run down, pluck one out of the case and make myself a cup of coffee with the keurig. It's much smaller than today's coffee mugs. If I select 6oz on the keurig it fills it RIGHT to the brim. So I went with a 4oz cup of coffee so I could add my cream and sugar.
In looking at the bottom of mine, it must be more current than the antiques. Mine has the Victor stamped but it also has stamped "Made in U.S.A." right under that. I don't remember that on the classics of my childhood, but it might be something they added towards the end of their production.
I'd have to assume their genuine since I picked them up at the plant.
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