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Posted Sat Jun 21, 2014, 12:06am
Subject: Infusing flavors into your roast
 

I know flavored coffee is something of blasphemy to the true coffee connoisseur but I thought I'd throw this out there..

First of all, what are your opinions of flavored coffees? Do you enjoy them or despise the idea?

Personally I'm not against the idea, but such things don't exist in specialty coffee. It only exists, as far as I've seen, in supermarket beans, which are not fresh and almost always tastes terrible (flavored or not) compared to truly fresh roasted coffee.

I figure it would be pretty damn good to infuse whatever your hearts desires are into really good whole beans.. Yes, really good beans can certainly stand on their own, but there really is no harm in adding your own notes, in my opinion. If it heightens your experience, all the more to  you.

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Posted Sat Jun 21, 2014, 11:30am
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Isn't it better to add flavors to the finished beverage (If you really need any added flavors)?
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Posted Sat Jun 21, 2014, 2:04pm
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Occasionally, I'll add a wee bit of cinnamon stick to a full Kalita pot...as dessert coffee. A touch of 1/2 and 1/2 as well. I do this with coffees like Colombian, and Sumatran.
By infusing the actual bean, you lose the ability to control the "flavorings" v coffee balance.

 
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Posted Sat Jun 21, 2014, 2:34pm
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kolu Said:

Isn't it better to add flavors to the finished beverage (If you really need any added flavors)?

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Well, of course, but I'm talking more about flavors infused right into the beans so you don't have to do that. Cut out the extra step... But also I think the biggest appeal is the aroma when opening up and grinding your beans.  A big part of my enjoyment with coffee is simply opening the container as an introduction into the waking world.  

Wonder if anyone drops in some vanilla bean stalks or cinnamon sticks into their roast container.. I'm not sure how effective it would be but at least you'd get the nice whiff when you prep.
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Posted Sat Jun 21, 2014, 4:02pm
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z0mbie Said:

Wonder if anyone drops in some vanilla bean stalks or cinnamon sticks into their roast container.. I'm not sure how effective it would be but at least you'd get the nice whiff when you prep.

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I'm not sure how will such stuff behave during the roasting process (at associated temperatures).
Such chemical flavoring ingredients are usually added post-roast at room temperatures.


z0mbie Said:

I think the biggest appeal is the aroma when opening up and grinding your beans.

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Yeah and hours of cleaning the grinder when you're overstuffed whit that particular flavoring...


I understand the goal but it sounds a bit impractical to do it any other way than the usual chemical flavoring of roasted beans OR adding flavors to beverage. Except for adding flavoring to the ground coffee and brewing it - like a big pinch of a ground chinese star anise or cinnamon (never tried vanilla) added to the middle of the espresso puck, which is tried and working method to make a slightly spicy cappuccino (or latte but the flavoring is very mild).
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Posted Sat Jun 21, 2014, 4:33pm
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well, I wasn't suggesting it be added for part of the roast..

Anyway, I'm not too interested trying to solve a technical problem.. it's not rocket science.  I was more interested in a conversation around what people's thoughts are of it..ie. do you like or hate it and why.. and the idea of doing it as specialty coffee, as I've not seem anything of the sort amongst the specialty bean offerings.   Only grocery beans have this sort of thing.
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Posted Sun Jun 22, 2014, 10:18am
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You asked for a personal view so here it is.

Add any flavors AFTER brewing. The range of syrups is much wider, you have the ability to adjust the taste of the resultant beverage, you will get better beans as for the most part, only the lowest quality beans get flavors added to them as a way to cover up how nasty they are.

The gains you get by post blending far out weigh the aroma of flavored beans in the bag. YMMV!

 
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Posted Sun Jun 22, 2014, 10:43am
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There may not be a better way to needlessly screw up your grinder than flavored beans.

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Posted Sun Jun 22, 2014, 11:28am
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Why bother adding any flavorings when you can get bursts of blackberry, walnut, cherry blossums, orange rind, leather, chocolate, cinnamon, frankenberry, captain crunch, and about a billion other flavor notes that beans naturally have just by perusing the cupping notes that various bean suppliers provide with their offerings?

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Posted Sun Jun 22, 2014, 2:02pm
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True.. But I don't see it any different from folks that drink specialty coffee and prefer to add sweetener to their coffee, or even milk (and I'm not talking about making a latte which is a specific drink)..

Almost everyone in my own family raved about how much better my coffee was, but nonetheless preferred to add a sweetener to the drinks I made for them.  lol.. (And of course they are all not in the best shape either).     At first, as a coffee geek, I was like (in my head), "Oh no you're not going to add that to my coffee".. But if they're going to enjoy my coffee I let them do whatever the heck they want to it.   Who am I to tell them how they should drink their coffee.

For instance, the guys at Handsome Roasters chose not to offer sweeteners in favor of dictating what they want you to taste ... and half of the reviews on yelp are bad.   My guess is that the policy will disappear once the store converts to a Blue Bottle shop.
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