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tenacioustommy
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Posted Sat Sep 28, 2002, 11:23am
Subject: COFFEE ROASTERS
 

Hello to all,
what is the best home coffee roaster that will roast beans to light,medium or dark the best
also the most reliable and easy to use

thank you
tom
boulder co
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jim_schulman
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Posted Sat Sep 28, 2002, 1:40pm
Subject: Re: COFFEE ROASTERS
 

There's no best home coffee roaster, and all the current models - popcorn poppers, the Freshroast, the Hearthware Gourmet, the Cafe Rosto, and the Alpenrost will do coffee to any degree of roast you desire. The only restriction is if you want to roast Mocha beans, don't get the Alp, since it's perforations in the drum are too large for tiny beans.

There's a number of factors to home roasters, and none of the machines is best on all of them:

Roast Quality The Alp produces the slowest most mellow roast, the Rosto and HWG are intermediate, Poppers and the FR tend to be brighter.

Modifiability Roast profiles (i.e. how mellow or bright a roast is) can be controlled by adding a variac or heavy duty dimmer (ca $40 - $70) to poppers, the FR, or the Rosto. They don't work for the Alp or HWG.

Roast Quantity Poppers, the FR, the Rosto, and the Alp can do about a pound per hour (with repeated roasts). The HWG is slower, about 3/5 pound per hour.

Ergonomics the FR and HWG are easiest to use, the Rosto is fairly easy, poppers and the alp each have certain difficulties. The Alp is very quiet, the FR fairly quiet, poppers are intermediate, the Rosto and HWG are very loud. Smoke control is easiest on the FR and HWG, intermediate on poppers and the Rosto, hardest on the Alp.

Reliability Poppers are easy to replace, the FR and Rosto have good reputations, the Alp and HWG have spotty reputations.

Heft Poppers and the FR are plasticky. The Rosto and HWG look like kitchen appliances, and the Alp is beefy and professional looking.

Intangibles People either come to dislike or enjoy roasting with a particular setup. Enjoying oneself is more important than all the objective factors. However, if you know your preferences and peeves, the objecive factors can give you a clue about which roaster you'll enjoy most.

Price Poppers $5 to $25, FR & HWG $65, Rosto $125, Alp $250.

Forthcoming The Hottop, a drum roaster like the Alp, but built better and more controllable will be out some time soon at $500. The new Hearthware, an airroaster with built in profile control is rumored to come out early next year, probably at around $175.

If you know what's important to you, this list should help you narrow your choice.

 
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coffeebeing
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Espresso: Isomac Zaffiro,Silvia,...
Grinder: Mazzer Mini,Rocky,Solis...
Vac Pot: Yama,Cafetino,Silex
Drip: Cusinart Brew Central,...
Roaster: Cafe Rosto, Hearthware...
Posted Sat Sep 28, 2002, 2:46pm
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Jim...If this isn't one of the best FAQ (sort of) posts I have seen on the internet for coffee roasters I don't know what is. This was very informative.

 
George W.
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jim_schulman
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Posted Sat Sep 28, 2002, 4:20pm
Subject: Re: COFFEE ROASTERS
 

coffeebeing Said:

Jim...If this isn't one of the best FAQ (sort of) posts I have seen on the internet for coffee roasters I don't know what is. This was very informative.

(I'm enjoying the espresso blend by the way and will write you within the next day or 2-got it on Wednesday by the way)

Posted September 28, 2002 link

Thanks. I one of those who thinks home roasting is the biggest bang for the buck quality step in coffee -- provided it doesn't become a chore.

I'm glad you're back; and I hope you're doing as well as grief permits.

 
Jim Schulman
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tenacioustommy
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Posted Sun Sep 29, 2002, 6:07am
Subject: Re: COFFEE ROASTERS
 

Jim,
thank you for the info

tom
boulder co
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RoxieL
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Roaster: Hottop/FR+
Posted Sun Sep 29, 2002, 4:35pm
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Jim, I agree w/George - great writeup.  Someone should save this & post it somewhere.  (With your permission, of course!)
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lizellis
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Posted Sun Sep 29, 2002, 9:05pm
Subject: Re: COFFEE ROASTERS
 

I'm joining the party late as usual but Jim, I just want to agree with the others.  Your information is, as always, clear and concise.  I've benefited from your advice several times in the past and want to thank you again for sharing your knowledge and experience.

 
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Roaster: Sivetz , Diedrich
Posted Mon Sep 30, 2002, 4:46am
Subject: Re: COFFEE ROASTERS
 

Oddly enough, contrary to being a chore, I look forward to my roasting sessons and was sorely disappointed when my failure to reorder from SM's quickly enough (after my first order) resulted in running out of green beans too soon.  Perhaps I'll tire of it at some point but for now, there's a tremendous sense of gratification when a roast is completed, cooled and in the jar for me to inhale.

 
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sarrett
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Posted Sun Oct 27, 2002, 3:11pm
Subject: Re: COFFEE ROASTERS
 

Jim,

I too would like to thank you for your post.  I've been considering getting a hot air popper and some green beans and experimenting with roasting my own.

Thanks again!
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Espresso: ECM La Toscana
Grinder: Rancilio Rocky SD
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Roaster: Hearthware Gourmet -...
Posted Tue Oct 29, 2002, 11:34am
Subject: Re: COFFEE ROASTERS
 

Hello All,

I'm waaay late on this discussion,
but, need to chime in against the
FR, here's why. The metal base
is bonded onto the glass roasting
chamber with sloppy amounts of
clear RTV silicon(or something).
Consider that 400+ degree air is
coming in contact with this and
then bubbling through your beans.
Is that something you want? I don't.
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