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gajetjunkie
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Posted Thu Dec 4, 2003, 1:57pm
Subject: Is roasting smoke toxic ?
 

Hi , I just roasted my first few batches with the stircrazy/convection setup , and was inhaling quite a bit of smoke . Is there any health hazard associated with roasting smoke ?

I'm a newbie at this , but I found the stircrazy/convection to be great.

Thanks to everybody for all the good info , It's made the learning curve alot easier .
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Posted Thu Dec 4, 2003, 2:21pm
Subject: Re: Is roasting smoke toxic ?
 

I have mild asthma & do many things to keep it under control & prevent flare ups.  So, IMO, smoke (fireplace, cigarette, cigar, leaves, whatever) is bad for your respiratory system.  My routine with the Hottop is to leave it outside, but keep watch from inside until about 18 minutes.  I then go out with one of those goofy masks ($2 at Walmart).  I determine when the roast is finished by the cracks, color & sheen & try to avoid standing where the smoke is blowing.  When the beans begin dumping, I go back inside.  This way I keep my exposure to the smoke to a minimum.
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Posted Thu Dec 4, 2003, 3:02pm
Subject: Re: Is roasting smoke toxic ?
 

I think Roxie is correct.  Smoke in your lungs can't be a good thing.
I do however love the smell of roast smoke.  

I am convinced that the smoke is corosive.  When I started home roasting the rate at which my range hood was corroding increased rapidly.  My wife noticed this as well and pointed it out.  About 8 months ago I dismantled the hood and had the sheet metal parts powder coated.  Recently the switches for the fan motor and lights got irratic.  I found them to be contaminated with roast smoke. (the stuff which accumilates inside of your roaster)  I cleaned the switches and the hood is working again, but I decided that this can't go on.

As much as I love my HWP and have learned how to use it I decided to get a Z&D. The claim is that they have a cat to eliminate or greatly reduce the smoke.

Now that I have figured out how to do roasting profiles with my HWP, I guess I will have to hack into the Z&D when it arrives and start the learing curve again.

Phil


gajetjunkie Said:

Hi , I just roasted my first few batches with the stircrazy/convection setup , and was inhaling quite a bit of smoke . Is there any health hazard associated with roasting smoke ?

I'm a newbie at this , but I found the stircrazy/convection to be great.

Thanks to everybody for all the good info , It's made the learning curve alot easier .

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Posted Thu Dec 4, 2003, 3:48pm
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PJK Said:

As much as I love my HWP and have learned how to use it I decided to get a Z&D. The claim is that they have a cat to eliminate or greatly reduce the smoke.

I'm waiting for somebody to post an afterburner mod for the FR+. :)

Seriously, I agree that coffee smoke is probably not great for your lungs or your wiring, paint, etc.  I started roasting in the garage so the smoke at least is out of the house.  But since I'm sitting over a bowl with a heat gun, I'm pretty much exposed to a lot of it.  Actually, that works for me because the light is really bad and my nose tells me more than my eyes.

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Posted Thu Dec 4, 2003, 4:18pm
Subject: Re: Is roasting smoke toxic ?
 

After reading all the posts on the smoke , I definately believe it is not good for you and sounds like it is corrosive so I will try to limit my exposure.

I was wondering if anybody has had an adverse reaction to the smoke ie: headache , lightheadedness, high feeling ?

Seems after my first couple of batches I had  kind of a buzz feeling . Of course this could be a good reaction depending on how you look at it.

Again thanks for all the help!!

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Posted Thu Dec 4, 2003, 5:44pm
Subject: Re: Is roasting smoke toxic ?
 

One little know reaction to roasting smoke is a bad back. Here is how this reaction occurs:

  1. Unpack roaster
  2. Cast the roaster instructions aside
  3. Fill the roaster with the twice the indicated amount of green beans
  4. Scoff at the so called "experts" who tell you not to roast indoors without proper ventilation
  5. Fill the house with smoke, while simultaneously creating your now trademark "Ashes" roast
  6. Beg wife, unsuccessfully, to forgive yet another one of your "simple" projects gone astray
  7. Sleep on couch for a week, or until the smoke smell goes away

Now you've been warned! The proper method to avoid this reaction is either to roast outside, or save up your roasting until your wife is out of town.

Good Luck!

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Posted Thu Dec 4, 2003, 6:02pm
Subject: Re: Is roasting smoke toxic ?
 

Kinda off topic, but on a serious note, most any kind of smoke is toxic to pet birds, even in amounts that might not bother humans at all.

Birds have a very efficient respiratory system. Efficient at processing oxygen, and efficient at taking in toxins. Thus we have the "canary in the coal mine", which really did work well as a early warning system for gasses in the mine.

When you have two parrots you have to think about how you do thing around the house in a different way.

Anyone that has birds probably knew this already, but you never know.

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Posted Thu Dec 4, 2003, 6:38pm
Subject: Re: Is roasting smoke toxic ?
 

Something to consider are the unknown dangers of long term, chronic exposure to roasting smoke.  Maybe for most people the "dose" of smoke from a single roasting session is "harmless".  But who knows what the consequences are of years of this exposure.

 
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Posted Thu Dec 4, 2003, 7:06pm
Subject: Re: Is roasting smoke toxic ?
 

narc Said:

Something to consider are the unknown dangers of long term, chronic exposure to roasting smoke.  Maybe for most people the "dose" of smoke from a single roasting session is "harmless".  But who knows what the consequences are of years of this exposure.

Posted December 4, 2003 link

On a serious note, if there are any problems from chronic exposure, would the SCAA know?  Are roasters at Starbucks, and the other large commercial chains dropping like flies after a few years?

Regards,

Michael Lloyd
Mill Creek, Washington  USA

 
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Posted Thu Dec 4, 2003, 7:32pm
Subject: Re: Is roasting smoke toxic ?
 

I always roast outside to avoid the fumes.  Toxic???, I don't know.  But, it is recommended to roast outside, not inside a home/apartment.

By the way... I LOVE the smell of roasting coffee.  LOVE it!!!

 
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