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Posted Fri Oct 18, 2002, 10:40am
Subject: Blend considerations for Cafe Crema?
 

Now that my recent foray into home roasting has me drinking "regular" coffee again (after a year of drinking only espresso based drinks), I've decided to experiment with blending for conventional drip coffee as well as espresso. I recognize that there are blends optimized for espresso and also those targeted at beign comsumed as drip, press or vacuum brewed coffee. Can any of you share experience on Cafe Crema?  I used to drink these at a favorite Northern Italian restaurant (not even knowing what they were - if you asked for coffee that's what they served).  I'd like to begin making some at home again but am curious to know if there are particular considerations or guidelines that I can use as a starting point for my blending experiments when Cafe Crema is the targeted drink.

 
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Posted Fri Oct 18, 2002, 1:41pm
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Hi Owen,

Don't have much direct experience, but German roasters (who sell a lot of for both espresso and cafe crema) have some "conventional wisdom" to get you started.

They basically sell three types of blends - regular, cafe crema and superautos, regular espresso. The crema/superauto category has the following hallmarks:

  1. Robusta is not suitable for cafe crema
  2. Neither are bright "breakfast coffee" style blends with a lot of Central American or Kenyan coffee; the brightness of the blend should be the same as that of an espresso blend.
  3. Some advertise that they go a little heavier on Indonesian beans and a little lighter on Brazilian ones to add some extra body.

Most of these guys are not using greens at a home roast standard for their blends, so I'm not sure how much of this advice applies.

 
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Posted Fri Oct 18, 2002, 3:43pm
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This a list of straights I enjoy for CafeCrema. Experiment blending.
  1. Brazil Minas Organic Sun-dried Fazenda Cachoeira:
    med body, sweetbitter chocholate with hint of spicy earthy-rooty.
    2.Mexican Organic Oaxaca San Augustine Loxicha: lt-med body, nutty-chocolate.
  2. Uganda Budadiri AA-S: full body, tanny-chocholate.
  3. Yemen Mokha Mattari YMCT: full body, fruity chocholate bomb.
  4. Ethiopian Ghimbi DP MC decaf:  med-body, musty-winey, chocolate spice.
    My one almost always available blend: 50/50 of Guatemalan Antigua-Finca Bella Carmona/Ethiopian Ghimbi DP MC decaf, a blueberry-chocholate-spice. NOTE: My taste buds vs anyone else & variation in degrees in roast may significantly alter the above descriptions.

 
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Posted Fri Oct 18, 2002, 6:06pm
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narc Said:

This a list of straights I enjoy for CafeCrema. Experiment blending.
Brazil Minas Organic Sun-dried Fazenda Cachoeira:
med body, sweetbitter chocholate with hint of spicy earthy-rooty.
2.Mexican Organic Oaxaca San Augustine Loxicha: lt-med body, nutty-chocolate.
Uganda Budadiri AA-S: full body, tanny-chocholate.
Yemen Mokha Mattari YMCT: full body, fruity chocholate bomb.
Ethiopian Ghimbi DP MC decaf:  med-body, musty-winey, chocolate spice.
My one almost always available blend: 50/50 of Guatemalan Antigua-Finca Bella Carmona/Ethiopian Ghimbi DP MC decaf, a blueberry-chocholate-spice. NOTE: My taste buds vs anyone else & variation in degrees in roast may significantly alter the above descriptions.

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Good descriptions! Where do you get the Mattari?

 
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Posted Fri Oct 18, 2002, 7:15pm
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another_jim Said:

Good descriptions! Where do you get the Mattari?

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Jim,
Jim @1st-line has had it on sale for a while now.{:-)

 
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Posted Mon Feb 3, 2003, 8:10am
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narc Said:

This a list of straights I enjoy for CafeCrema. Experiment blending.
Brazil Minas Organic Sun-dried Fazenda Cachoeira:
med body, sweetbitter chocholate with hint of spicy earthy-rooty.
2.Mexican Organic Oaxaca San Augustine Loxicha: lt-med body, nutty-chocolate.
Uganda Budadiri AA-S: full body, tanny-chocholate.
Yemen Mokha Mattari YMCT: full body, fruity chocholate bomb.
Ethiopian Ghimbi DP MC decaf:  med-body, musty-winey, chocolate spice.
My one almost always available blend: 50/50 of Guatemalan Antigua-Finca Bella Carmona/Ethiopian Ghimbi DP MC decaf, a blueberry-chocholate-spice. NOTE: My taste buds vs anyone else & variation in degrees in roast may significantly alter the above descriptions.

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where can i find some minas coffee? :)
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Posted Mon Feb 3, 2003, 9:06am
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proton Said:

where can i find some minas coffee? :)

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Hi Khanh,

Try Tom Owen at Sweetmarias here, La Minita here & Organic Brazil Minas Cachoeira. Cheers!

 
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Posted Mon Feb 3, 2003, 6:48pm
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Pardon my ignorance, what is Cafe Crema?

Thanks,

Phil

 
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