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rwgamer
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Posted Thu Sep 23, 2010, 4:12pm
Subject: Fresh roasted coffee - bloom?
 

I just bought a pound of allegedly freshly roasted coffee from a local roaster.  But when I pour water over it, it hardly blooms at all.  Is this because the coffee is too fresh and it needs to sit a couple of days?  It also doesn't seem to be degassing much.  So I guess the question is whether fresh out of the roaster coffee should bloom.

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Posted Thu Sep 23, 2010, 4:36pm
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rwgamer Said:

I just bought a pound of allegedly freshly roasted coffee from a local roaster.  But when I pour water over it, it hardly blooms at all.  Is this because the coffee is too fresh and it needs to sit a couple of days?  It also doesn't seem to be degassing much.  So I guess the question is whether fresh out of the roaster coffee should bloom.

Thanks,
Rick

Posted September 23, 2010 link

In answer to your question, yes it should bloom. In general, the fresher the coffee, the more bloom you will see. After a week, you will see less blooming.

It sounds like it is not really fresh roasted. I tried a local roaster for a while, but their coffee was at least a week old, sometimes two weeks. I was frustrated that I could not get REAL fresh roasted coffee locally - so I now roast my own.

If you don't see a roast date on the bag - don't buy it!

 
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Posted Thu Sep 23, 2010, 4:59pm
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I'm trying out this new roaster, but probably won't go back.  There's no roast date and it took them almost a week to process my order.  This actually raised my hopes that the coffee was fresh roasted, like maybe they hadn't gotten around to their Ethiopian yet.  Oh well, two more roasters to try in my area.

I've thought about roasting at home but I feel like a professional could do it better than myself.  I'm not ready to plunk down $350 for a Behmor either.  I've seen the results of air poppers and they roast very unevenly...
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Posted Thu Sep 23, 2010, 7:00pm
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I forgot to say thank you for confirming my suspicions.  I'm just not a happy camper now.
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Posted Sun Sep 26, 2010, 4:26pm
Subject: Re: Fresh roasted coffee - bloom?
 

rwgamer Said:

I've thought about roasting at home but I feel like a professional could do it better than myself.  I'm not ready to plunk down $350 for a Behmor either.

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I don't think you should talk yourself out of your ability to produce pleasing roasts. And about costs - I know this is partially the power of positive thinking but the economics do work. I roast about 75 to 80 pounds of coffee a year for my partner and I. Custom roasted coffees around here cost $12-15/lb. I paid off my roaster in the first year (now on year 5) and I buy excellent greens for under $5/lb. That means my FRESH home roasts cost me no more than $5-6/lb.
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Posted Tue Sep 28, 2010, 9:12am
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popcorn roasters don't do that bad of a job actually.  the more inexpensive home roasters are just glorified hot air poppers...with better quality control and temp controllers.

roasting at home is not hard...but gets addicitve
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Posted Wed Sep 29, 2010, 7:47am
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You might try this one. Larry is a gem in coffee circles...
http://www.larryscoffees.com/reserve.html
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Posted Wed Sep 29, 2010, 3:05pm
Subject: Re: Fresh roasted coffee - bloom?
 

rgrosz Said:

In answer to your question, yes it should bloom. In general, the fresher the coffee, the more bloom you will see. After a week, you will see less blooming.

It sounds like it is not really fresh roasted. I tried a local roaster for a while, but their coffee was at least a week old, sometimes two weeks. I was frustrated that I could not get REAL fresh roasted coffee locally - so I now roast my own.

If you don't see a roast date on the bag - don't buy it!

Posted September 23, 2010 link

Roasted coffee beans at 10-14 days old is not really old. If I let my beans rest a good 4 days, that leaves me a good week of coffee. Saying ten day old beans are not acceptable from a roaster or ones self, is pushing it a bit. I have had roaster who say I just roasted it yesterday, and I always ask for beans that have been roasted 4 days earlier. I may toss mine after 2 weeks, but I generlay only roast enough for a weeks worth of coffee, so I have always have beans resting and beans brewing.
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Posted Wed Sep 29, 2010, 7:51pm
Subject: Re: Fresh roasted coffee - bloom?
 

rwgamer Said:

I'm trying out this new roaster, but probably won't go back.  There's no roast date and it took them almost a week to process my order.  This actually raised my hopes that the coffee was fresh roasted, like maybe they hadn't gotten around to their Ethiopian yet.  Oh well, two more roasters to try in my area.

I've thought about roasting at home but I feel like a professional could do it better than myself.  I'm not ready to plunk down $350 for a Behmor either.  I've seen the results of air poppers and they roast very unevenly...

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My unhappy results with local roasters is what convinced me to get a Behmor. It only took a month to get the hang of it, and now I am having great coffee every day. Plus I can roast different beans every week - it is simply too much fun!!

After a few months of using the Behmor, I decided to check my results versus "the pros". I bought roasted coffee beans (for drip and and espresso) from both Counter Culture Coffee and Intelligentsia. I was quite happy with the coffee and espresso from their beans.

I was pleased that my results with the Behmor compare favorably - at least for drip coffee. I have not tried roasting for espresso yet.

 
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Posted Mon Oct 4, 2010, 9:28am
Subject: Re: Fresh roasted coffee - bloom?
 

Yeh I want a behmor would make me day even year if i managed to obtain one, but alas its about the money ! as per ! :(
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