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Posted Tue Jul 2, 2002, 9:02am
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For all the talk on alt.coffee about roasters, I don't recall seeing any threads about Variacs.  Several months ago, I noticed this on coffeebeancorral.com and have been wondering if this is something I should invest in or not.  Does anyone here use one?  If so, what caused you to get it?  What, if any, improvements have you noticed?  Is this the kind of thing that could possibly prevent my roaster from getting fried - kind of like a Topaz line conditioner for a computer????
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Posted Tue Jul 2, 2002, 9:32am
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RoxieL Said:

For all the talk on alt.coffee about roasters, I don't recall seeing any threads about Variacs.  Several months ago, I noticed this on coffeebeancorral.com and have been wondering if this is something I should invest in or not.  Does anyone here use one?  If so, what caused you to get it?  What, if any, improvements have you noticed?  Is this the kind of thing that could possibly prevent my roaster from getting fried - kind of like a Topaz line conditioner for a computer????

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Hi RoxieL,Are you a member of the Sweetmarias homeroast list & or email digest? There's been lots of talk there about variacs. There using them to do different roast profiles,different ramp up times with different variable voltages,effectively controling roast temps. They also work,like you say,as a line conditioner stablizing voltage during low voltage times(brown outs).Taming the brightness in a bean roasted in a FR & creating more body by lengthing roast time,the best of both worlds between air(fluidized bed)roasting & drum roasting(Alp).

 
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Posted Tue Jul 2, 2002, 11:19am
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RoxieL Said:

For all the talk on alt.coffee about roasters, I don't recall seeing any threads about Variacs.  Several months ago, I noticed this on coffeebeancorral.com and have been wondering if this is something I should invest in or not.  Does anyone here use one?  If so, what caused you to get it?  What, if any, improvements have you noticed?  Is this the kind of thing that could possibly prevent my roaster from getting fried - kind of like a Topaz line conditioner for a computer????

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Actually there were a couple of threads on that the last couple of months.  Jim Schulman, Jack Denver, and a couple of others were in them. Might have even dragged The Horta (Brendan) into it to.  Use Google search, I'm sure they'll turn up.

 
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Posted Tue Jul 2, 2002, 2:27pm
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RoxieL Said:

For all the talk on alt.coffee about roasters, I don't recall seeing any threads about Variacs.  Several months ago, I noticed this on coffeebeancorral.com and have been wondering if this is something I should invest in or not.  Does anyone here use one?  If so, what caused you to get it?  What, if any, improvements have you noticed?  Is this the kind of thing that could possibly prevent my roaster from getting fried - kind of like a Topaz line conditioner for a computer????

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I use a variac on my FR+ to vary the air temperature at different roast stages. This is called "roast profiling" for some reason. One can do this with popcorn poppers, the FR, and the CR-120 aka Cafe Rosto, since they have line voltage thermostats. The Hearthware machines and the Alp have electronic controls and are not amenable to this.

However, some people use Variacs for these simply to adjust the overall voltage. There is a theory that whenever the thermostat switches off the heat, the roast suffers. By throttling back the voltage to 105 - 110, the heater never gets hot enough for the thermostat to cut off, and one roasts with a continuous blast.

I personally put stock in this idea for my FR; I suspect it works for the low thermal mass HWP/HWG; but I doubt it makes much difference on the Alp, since the mass of the drum will smooth out the variations while the heaters are cycling on and off.

 
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Posted Tue Jul 2, 2002, 7:00pm
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Thanks, everyone for the replies.  George * Jim, I looked up those threads - made my head spin!!!!  If I'm understanding correctly, it sounds like since I'm not into roast profiling and since I have Hearthwares & an Alp, I don't have a need for a Variac...right?  It doesn't sound like it's going to prolong the life of my roasters?  (Sorry, but I know nothing about electrical stuff...)
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Posted Tue Jul 2, 2002, 7:58pm
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RoxieL Said:

Thanks, everyone for the replies.  George * Jim, I looked up those threads - made my head spin!!!!  If I'm understanding correctly, it sounds like since I'm not into roast profiling and since I have Hearthwares & an Alp, I don't have a need for a Variac...right?  It doesn't sound like it's going to prolong the life of my roasters?  (Sorry, but I know nothing about electrical stuff...)

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Unless you're having high voltage problems - uneven, overly fast roasts - there's not much they'll do for you. I'm fairly sure I'm shortening the life of my FR "reving" it up and down with the variac. Fortunately, the FR seems to be abuse proof.

 
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