Vsquare Senior Member Joined: 25 Jan 2014 Posts: 10 Location: NJ Expertise: Just starting
Posted Thu Mar 20, 2014, 5:37am Subject: Sweetest Coffee Beans for Roasting
Hi everyone I'm a newbie and just started roasting my coffee beans. BTW, I never knew what I was missing until I tasted my FIRST fresh roasted coffee beans - AMAZING! Anyways, I have a BIG sweet tooth and was wondering if anyone has any recommendation as to what green coffee beans that would be really sweet to roast. Thank you for your help :-)
Posted Thu Mar 20, 2014, 6:35am Subject: Re: Sweetest Coffee Beans for Roasting
It takes a few pounds of beans to really nail a profile, and you can only use so many beans; consequently you end up ordering in fairly large quantities; and that limits the number of retailers from whom you buy. I almost never buy from Sweet Maria's anymore, but that's not a comment on their beans or service. Trust me when I say that it is, without a doubt, the best place, by light years, for someone new to roasting and just learning about beans.
Every bean has its own write up, every write up includes cupping notes and roasting suggestions, and each and every word is written by an independent-minded, highly knowledgeable person. Among other things (like particular fruit and chocolate nuances), the notes will tell you what to expect regarding sweetness.
Sweet Maria's has enough variety to keep you occupied for quite some time -- the first twenty-five pounds at least.
Currently the greens retailers I use most often include: Bodhi Leaf; Coffee Project; Green Coffee Buyer's Club; Klatch; and Roastmasters.com. But do as I say and not as I do. Start with Sweet Maria's.
Also, get involved on forums (including this one and H-B) with a lot of Behmor users. Behmors present their own special set of challenges, and it's very helpful to talk with people who use them successfully (not me). There's a little more to it than just choosing the right profile and letting it rip.
And speaking of H-B, you might the Roast and Learn project a lot of fun once you get a handle on basic profiling techniques.
DavecUK Senior Member Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Posts: 1,466 Location: UK Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Thu Mar 20, 2014, 4:15pm Subject: Re: Sweetest Coffee Beans for Roasting
I'll keep it simple.
Brazilian Coffee beans and especially Brazilian pulped naturals will be sweetest. Also some Ethiopians can be quite sweet. Be careful when you roast not to scorch otherwise you will get ashy bitter notes.
Posted Fri Mar 21, 2014, 9:06am Subject: Re: Sweetest Coffee Beans for Roasting
In addition, I think if you cool the fresh roasted beans very fast they have a 'sweeter' flavor.
I don't know about sweet, but if you cool them too slowly they tend to keep cooking, which leads to flattening out the fruit notes. Behmors are very slow coolers, and you'll need to use some workarounds to separate end of roasting from cooling, and to speed the cooling process to a minimally acceptable rate.
They aren't secrets, but I don't want to set myself up as someone who knows that much about Behrmors -- because I don't. You need to start talking to people with lots of successful Behmor experience.
It's not a Behmor problem, but fwiw, cooling too fast can lead to its own set of issues.
Brazilian Coffee beans and especially Brazilian pulped naturals will be sweetest. Also some Ethiopians can be quite sweet.
Out of the couple of dozen or so coffees I roasted in the last couple of years, the six sweetest were four Centrals and two Colombians -- no Brazilians or Africans -- and were variously, natural, washed or honey processed.
It's not so much that I disagree with Dave -- who has a great deal more experience in these matters than I do -- but sweetness is where you find it; and not necessarily in a particular region or process. That's why I suggest nosing through the cupping notes for every coffee listed at SM.
The consistency and completeness of those notes is the reason I recommended sticking with SM for the first few months with your new roaster. SM is by no means the only excellent, internet, green beans supplier in the US. It's just the most beginner-friendly.
Be careful when you roast not to scorch otherwise you will get ashy bitter notes.
I'm not sure that a charge temp high enough to scorch is even possible in a Behmor.
Last I know this started as a bean question, and you were looking for an answer like, Las Lajones Honey from Bodhi Leaf, but there's so much context to deal with before we start naming names.
A Behmor is a good home roaster, monster bang for the buck, and a good start to learning drum roasting. Behmors can do some great things, but there are a great many important things they can't do very well -- at least not without a lot of kludging and workarounds; and some things they do at all.
It's a good idea to get a general grasp of your roaster and a few dozen roasts under your belt before you start getting into the exotic stuff.
All of that said, the Las Lajones Honey is about as sweet as coffee gets.
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