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Posted Sat Mar 22, 2014, 2:15pm
Subject: Any blends to replicate Red Bird Espresso?
 

Hi,
I miss Red Bird espresso, I have not bought pre-roasted beans in over a year. Has anyone found a green blend our mixed one up themselves that replicates Red bird? Thanks- Greg
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Posted Sat Mar 22, 2014, 3:43pm
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Posted Sat Mar 22, 2014, 4:14pm
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Because I don't buy pre-roasted beans anymore.
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Posted Sat Mar 22, 2014, 4:30pm
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Just wondering. Have you contacted them and asked if they would sell you some of their green blend?

Many roasters do sell greens too.

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Posted Sat Mar 22, 2014, 4:39pm
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Posted Sat Mar 22, 2014, 4:42pm
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It's worth a shot, I just emailed him. I will fill you in on the reply.
Thanks for the suggestion Sky. -Greg
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Posted Sat Mar 22, 2014, 4:48pm
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SJM Said:

My friend Sam says if you want Redbird, just roast some good Ethiopian and mix it with a good Brazil and you've got a perfect replacement.

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I did try doing some blending on my own but none of them turned out like red bird. He does not list the types of beans he uses which I can understand I am sure he worked long and hard on developing this blend. from his website "blended from a collection of top grade coffees from both sides of the equator"
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Posted Sat Mar 22, 2014, 5:18pm
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Jeff wrote back to me, They do not sell green beans. :(
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Posted Sat Mar 22, 2014, 5:25pm
Subject: Re: Any blends to replicate Red Bird Espresso?
 

Sweet Maria's has some pretty good pre-roast, green blends ready to go.

Pre-roast blending (that is, mixing the greens and roasting them together) requires beans which hit their milestones at very similar times and temps; as well as bringing the right qualities of taste and mouthfeel to the mix.  

Putting together a successful pre-roast blend isn't impossible but -- until you have some familiarity with a lot of different bean types -- success will be a matter of luck as much of skill.  Let me be honest, the blend I roast most often was put together by a combination of sheer, dumb luck, and undeserved good fortune.  It varies a little depending on what's available and what's good during any given season or year, but right now is equal parts of Guatemala Cafe Femenino, El Salvador El Rubi Honey, and Panama Elida Natural.  It requires a very soft start from Charge to End of Drying, followed by a fast Ramp, followed by an extended Development; not an ideal choice for a someone new to roasting -- but I've attached a plot if you want to give it a try.  

With due respect to Sam, there's a lot more to picking greens than country of origin.  

Anyway... look through Sweet Maria's blends and pick out a couple which look interesting to you. Monkey is SM's most popular blend. It makes a very nice espresso, and is a forgiving roast.

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Posted Sat Mar 22, 2014, 5:59pm
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Hi Rich,
I have tried many of SM's blends, for there regular blends I like Monkey a lot and for the work shops I was really into #28 taller de taller but it's no longer available. I did read the home coffee roasting book and Blending basics and tried a few of my own blends. Thank you for your blend recipe I am a bit limited on soft starts and fast ramps with the Behmor profiles, I could see myself with a nice sample roaster but that would be down the line. -Greg
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