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Posted Fri Dec 31, 2004, 11:58pm
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Hi....after a couple of weeks with the Melita Clarity, I've determined that it's necessary to tip it over about every 2 brew cycles to purge the water tank of previously heated stale water, which returns to the tank at the end of the brew cycle...roughly about 3 oz of water...probably a bit nasty to the tastebuds.
The purging process is a bit inconvenient, but necessary, I believe...
Question: does this problem manifest itself in the Technovorm line, especially the model recently reviewed by Mark?

 
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Posted Sat Jan 1, 2005, 4:41am
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I haven't seen (or tasted) any problem with my Technivorm (Moccamaster CD).  My TechV retains 3.5oz of water below the water reservoir like your Clarity.  I tasted the retained water that I'd poured into the measuring cup and it had no bad flavor other than being warm.  This was done about an hour after I'd brewed a pot and turned the machine off.

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Posted Sat Jan 1, 2005, 10:01am
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Yeah, but I wonder how it tastes when used in the next days brew water?

 
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Posted Sat Jan 1, 2005, 10:12am
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IMAWriter Said:

Yeah, but I wonder how it tastes when used in the next days brew water?

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I've seen the same thing in my Clarity at work, but it hasn't colored my coffee at all so far as I can tell.  I'm using bottled spring water, and I tasted it (the next day after) when I noticed it was in there.  

Now I turn the machine upside-down on Monday mornings because I figure that water set all weekend and who knows what grew in there over the weekend.

 
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Posted Sat Jan 1, 2005, 11:53am
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Same here...although I guess you'd be replenishing the stale water every day...that is, every brew would kick out the stale...brew...then leave a new 3oz of water at bottom...and so it goes!!

 
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Posted Tue Jan 4, 2005, 4:43pm
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I do not believe that my Technivorm KBT leaves any water (maybe a few drops worth).  I will check it when I get home.
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Posted Tue Jan 4, 2005, 5:11pm
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ChrisatCafeGreenBean Said:

I do not believe that my Technivorm KBT leaves any water (maybe a few drops worth).  I will check it when I get home.

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I believe that issue would only arise with the Mocca Master technovorm, because of the horizontal water delivery tube...
didn't mean to cause anyone consternation!
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Posted Thu Jan 6, 2005, 7:43pm
Subject: Re: Clarity vs Technovorm water retention
 

I, too, own the Clarity and found the water retention problem.  So far, I have not been overly impressed with the machine as far as the coffee having a superior flavor to my old Cuisinart machine.  I will probably go back to the Chemex.  We make coffee at home approx. 4 days a week.
Because a family member has low immunity, I fear the Clarity may form some bacteria in the retained water and cause health problems.
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Posted Thu Jan 6, 2005, 10:25pm
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MaestroHC Said:

Because a family member has low immunity, I fear the Clarity may form some bacteria in the retained water and cause health problems.

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Better safe than sorry...for a drip, this thing is pretty good, although the finished brew is not nearly as hot as I expected...several degrees under the temp of my finished "mini" eSantos and B&D Infuze vac pots...

 
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