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Posted Sat Oct 15, 2005, 9:43am
Subject: Jasper Morrison Rowenta Drip Coffee Machine Experience
 

Does anyone out there have experience with the Jasper Morrison designed drip coffee machine made by Rowenta? The design is compact and well thought out. Good looking, as far as drip coffee makers go, as well. But most importantly, does it make good coffee? :)
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Posted Mon Oct 17, 2005, 1:19pm
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The heating element looks too weak to brew in 7 minutes, although
it might.

The coffee maker looks neat though, and id like to know about it too.

Dont like the shadiness of the 12 cup rating since its
really 5 cups.

Are you thinking of getting one?

 
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Posted Mon Oct 17, 2005, 2:47pm
Subject: Re: Jasper Morrison Rowenta Drip Coffee Machine Experience
 

Looks interesting, but, from the description: " The 12-cup glass carafe has an innovative locking lid that preserves the coffee's aroma and flavor. The single slot, two-slice Toaster features silent motorized operation with photosensor technology to control browning." Que?

 
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Posted Mon Oct 17, 2005, 4:18pm
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naznar Said:

The heating element looks too weak to brew in 7 minutes, although
it might.

The coffee maker looks neat though, and id like to know about it too.

Dont like the shadiness of the 12 cup rating since its
really 5 cups.

Are you thinking of getting one?

Posted October 17, 2005 link

I am thinking of getting one. We have a cheap Mr. Coffee that has to be the worst designed machine ever. I can't wait to throw it away. If the Germans make a coffee machine anything like cars, I'll gladly pay the premium.

Can you please expand on your comments about the heating element and cup rating? Thanks.
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Posted Mon Oct 17, 2005, 4:19pm
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RAS Said:

from the description: "single slot, two-slice Toaster " Que?

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Yeah. I noticed that too. I'm sure that's just a typo by DWR, the retailer.
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Posted Tue Oct 18, 2005, 1:32pm
Subject: Re: Jasper Morrison Rowenta Drip Coffee Machine Experience
 

The key factor is the water temp.  If it's near 200F then it's probably pretty good.  If it's in the 180-190F range, like many of the Braun and Krups drip machines, then steer clear.   It's unlikely that you can get that spec from the site or manufacturer.  Just have to try it, and make sure they have a good return policy just in case.
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Posted Sun Oct 23, 2005, 2:45pm
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I emailed Jasper Morrison and Rowenta both.
Rowenta has yet to get back to me, so i am re-emailing after this post.

Jasper Morrison folk said they have no idea how long it brews for, or how hot it gets.  They are just the designers.  

I will post as soon as Rowenta gets on it.  
Have you thought of getting a technivorm?  they brew super fast.

If you run out and get one
please let us know how it turns out, i am super curious.

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Posted Thu Oct 27, 2005, 12:52pm
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I just spoke to Rowenta customer service. They told me that the machine brews at between 198 and 202F and that it takes 7 to 10 minutes to make a pot, depending on the grind. The heating element is 800 watts, which sounds a little underpowered. But if what they say is true, then it's on the money.

Also, one of the distributors I spoke to (Unica), suggested that I buy the glass carafe version which holds 50 oz, rather than the stainless steel, thermal carafe, which holds 40 oz. She said that a few customers have returned the stainless steel version because it doesn't keep the coffee hot enough.
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Posted Sat Oct 29, 2005, 11:05am
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This is what Rowenta emailed me.
Friday Oct 28th.   Kind of disagrees with lederhosens inquiry.

"Both the CG80 glass carafe model, and the CT80 thermal carafe model share
the same
brewing temperatures, and brewing time.
The coffee maker will brew at approximately one cup per minute.
The temperature of the coffee should be 190 degrees Fahrenheit when the
water enters the
filter basket. Once the coffee has brewed and enters the carafe, the
temperature of the coffee
will range from 165-180 degrees Fahrenheit, plus or minus five degrees."

If it is rated as a 12 cup brewer, brew time might be 12 minutes.
When "Rowenta" emailed me about temperature they told
me not only what the temp should be but at what point it would be as well. nice.

You probably must preheat the carafe before brewing, or else it will suck the heat out.  I think glass would be shorter prep time to keep coffee hot, but the glass carafe model may use the same element to heat carafe and brew water and therefore brew at a lower temp as energy is shared between plate and feed water.    This may not make a difference?    looks cool.  190 even is acceptable brew temp i think.

 
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Posted Sun Oct 30, 2005, 9:35am
Subject: Re: Jasper Morrison Rowenta Drip Coffee Machine Experience
 

Thanks so much for the detailed investigation and feedback. Certainly gives me some more confidence in considering this machine. I'll provide a report if/when we get one. Much appreciated!
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