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Posted Tue Apr 16, 2013, 1:59pm
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AlanAdler Said:

Andy Sprenger brewed the 1.36% cup with a pour-over followed by AeroPressing.

Posted April 15, 2013 link

That's quite interesting.

It should be in another thread but I've been wondering about this lately: Does coffee work well as brew water? That is, can you make good (strong) coffee by brewing a cup, warming that brewed coffee up to brewing temperature and using it as the "water" to brew a second cup?

Alan - Are you still using a PAL-1?
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Posted Tue Apr 16, 2013, 4:31pm
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jpender Said:

That's quite interesting.

It should be in another thread but I've been wondering about this lately: Does coffee work well as brew water? That is, can you make good (strong) coffee by brewing a cup, warming that brewed coffee up to brewing temperature and using it as the "water" to brew a second cup?

Alan - Are you still using a PAL-1?

Posted April 16, 2013 link

His second step of AeroPressing was only filtering.  There was no coffee in the AeroPress.

I suspect that Andy, who is an expert coffee brewer, won this one in spite of his method rather than because of it.  I say this because the AeroPress regularly wins against pour-overs in taste tests, and adding his second filtering step would not undo the extra acid resulting from the longish pour-over time.  But as I said, he's an expert, so perhaps he's on to something.

Remember that everyone brought their own beans.  So this contest was a combination of brewing skill and bean quality.

Yes.  I am still using my original PAL-1.

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Posted Tue Apr 16, 2013, 6:54pm
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AlanAdler Said:

His second step of AeroPressing was only filtering.  There was no coffee in the AeroPress.

Posted April 16, 2013 link

The online recipe and accompanying video indicate otherwise.
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Posted Tue Apr 16, 2013, 7:17pm
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John's right. Here's a link: http://usaeropress.tumblr.com/#47870737305

It was awfully nice of Andy to stick to Aeropressing this year and let someone else win the Brewers Cup! :)
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Posted Tue Apr 16, 2013, 9:19pm
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jpender Said:

The online recipe and accompanying video indicate otherwise.

Posted April 16, 2013 link

This link shows what I watched Andy do for the finals.  He used the AeroPress only as a filter.  

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Alan

http://sprudge.com/andy-sprenger-aeropress.html
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Posted Tue Apr 16, 2013, 11:44pm
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AlanAdler Said:

This link shows what I watched Andy do for the finals.  He used the AeroPress only as a filter.  

Best,

Alan

http://sprudge.com/andy-sprenger-aeropress.html

Posted April 16, 2013 link

It looks to me as though there was coffee in the aeropress and also coffee in the filter.  Some of the water that infused the coffee in the aeropress was coffee from the pourover into the filter.
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Posted Wed Apr 17, 2013, 7:56am
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paulbel Said:

It looks to me as though there was coffee in the aeropress and also coffee in the filter.  Some of the water that infused the coffee in the aeropress was coffee from the pourover into the filter.

Posted April 16, 2013 link

Hi Paul,

Yes, there were probably some fines which leaked into the brew during the pour-over.  Otherwise there would be no reason for the AeroPress filtering.

But he did not add any grounds to the chamber after the pour-over.

I watched the entire process from about a yard in front of him.  I was very attentive because he had just won the award for "The Most Innovative Method".

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Posted Wed Apr 17, 2013, 8:17am
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AlanAdler Said:

Hi Paul,

Yes, there were probably some fines which leaked into the brew during the pour-over.  Otherwise there would be no reason for the AeroPress filtering.

But he did not add any grounds to the chamber after the pour-over.

I watched the entire process from about a yard in front of him.  I was very attentive because he had just won the award for "The Most Innovative Method".

Best,

Alan

Posted April 17, 2013 link

In the youtube video Andy clearly adds grounds to the Aeropress before the pourover.
Was the video a re-enactment where he used a different technique? Or did you miss something?

Recipe:
8g of coffee and 120g of water pulse poured for 90 seconds into a trimmed V60 filter.
This drips into the Aeropress which is pre-loaded with an addtional 10g of coffee.
He then adds 150g of water, reverts, caps, and gently presses for 25 seconds.

Measured by Alan:
Strength of 1.36 0.17%

So how do you calculate the extraction?
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