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AlanAdler
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Posted Thu Jan 26, 2006, 9:46pm
Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
 

Hi joepfohl,

Five ounces of American per scoop.  So two scoops make ten ounces of American coffee.

Incidentally a few water heating devices, like the "RIVAL 4 Cup Hot Pot Express Hot Water Kettle", have a temperature dial.  You can tweak the dial to deliver 175F water.   We use one for demos.  And when I bought one for my grandaughter to use in her dorm room, the saleslady said she used one when she was in college to make soup.  They sell for about $15.

Thank you very much for your supportive comments.

Best regards,

Alan
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Posted Fri Jan 27, 2006, 5:02am
Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
 

ruk Said:

Stinky...
I understand your concern, but I think the rule is really meant to apply to prevent mindless spamming. That certainly isn't the case here. I actually think it'd be great if we had more Q&A threads likes this.

Posted January 26, 2006 link

I don't necessarily think this is true.  I'm under the assumption that the rule was put in place to prevent people from free commercial posting, or in other words, if you are going to promote your product here, then you should pay to do so.

So much for August's guilt trip, i guess.

Given the feedback from a few members (most notably, my sidamo dealer whom i repsect greatly), i will drop the issue, but not without first making the following comments:
  1. Just because the person who invented the product is the one who is promoting his product on the forum for free, it doesn't make it okay.
  2. I find the lack of moderator comments on the subject very suspicious--other members have been issued strikes for much, much less.
  3. Post number 2 from Alan was as follows:

AlanAdler Said:

French press coffee users like its strong brew.  AeroPress (my invention) is paper-filtered and can brew even stronger than the French press if you wish.   It is also faster and easier to use.  See (website link removed)

I appologize for this plug, but it could save lives.

Posted January 14, 2006 link

Yeah, you're right--not a commercial post or a blatant attempt to sell product.

--Scott

 
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Posted Fri Jan 27, 2006, 6:48am
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stinky we have read your point now it is time to find something else to do with your time- the rest of us want to stick to coffee.
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Posted Fri Jan 27, 2006, 8:28am
Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
 

AlanAdler Said:

Five ounces of American per scoop.  So two scoops make ten ounces of American coffee.

Posted January 26, 2006 link

Lemme just check to make sure I've got this correct.  Five ounces of water go into the Aeropress with the two scoops then after thw brewing and pressing are done you add another five ounces of water to the brew?  I'm just a little confised as to what you mean by "American" in the first sentence i quoted you on.  Thanks in advance!!

 
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Posted Fri Jan 27, 2006, 9:05am
Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
 

Greetings from Iraq to all! I finaly got my aeropress and wanted to comment on my experiance. First let me preface the following comments with this: I have no access to good quality beans or a grinder- just of the shelf (probably several months old) course ground drip brew coffee. I wont complain though because this coffee was and continues to be provided by the kind citizens of the U.S. that support the soldiers over here.

  That having been said, I am very impressed. I typicaly dont drink drip brewed coffee. Normaly I brew a triple or quadruple shot of espresso and make an americano. But when I do I try to use the highest quality and freshest coffee I can aquire and grind it just before brewing.  Now when I am not in Iraq, I live in Fairbanks, Alaska so I cant just walk out to my choice of dozens of shops that sell quality beans but we have a fair selection including some locally grown beans that are quite good.  The best comparison I can make upon tasting a cup of Aeropress coffee (Americano) is the difference between when I brew your standard brew drip coffee (pick your brand, they are all pretty much the same) and when I brew a good quality, fresh ground bean.  My first thoughts upon tasting the brew was of the first time I strayed from the baked-all-day drip pot brew my father makes, to grinding and brewing quality coffee my self and brewing. The coffee was rich and bold and tasted head and sholders better than the very same coffee brewed in your standard drip machine (the only other method of brewing we have over here at the moment).

  As a soldier, my feelings are that this should be standard issue to anyone who drinks coffee. It is suprisingly small, easy to use and is durable. All of the things that I look for in anything that I take to the field with me. The fact that I get a quality of coffee that surpasses any brewed cup I have had from mediocre coffee is iceing on the cake.

Oh and suprisingly even with the stale coffee and the fact that I am pretty sure I used water that was too hot (no way to measure the temp of the kettle here) I managed to produce a small amount of crema on each pull I have done so far.

                                     Well, I am going to wrap this up so I can enjoy another cup and do some work!

James Hallahan
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AlanAdler
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Posted Fri Jan 27, 2006, 9:54am
Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
 

joepfohl Said:

Lemme just check to make sure I've got this correct.  Five ounces of water go into the Aeropress with the two scoops then after the brewing and pressing are done you add another five ounces of water to the brew?  I'm just a little confised as to what you mean by "American" in the first sentence i quoted you on.  Thanks in advance!!

Posted January 27, 2006 link

Hi joepfohl,

An "Americano" is espresso diluted with hot water to yield the same strength as drip brew.   A single espresso weighs about an ounce and is mixed with four ounces of water to make a total of five ounces of brew.   Double all of those numbers for a double espresso, which uses two scoops of ground coffee.

The above numbers apply to a conventional espresso machine, or to an  AeroPress.  In the case of the AeroPress, the amount of water you put into the press would be according to the numbers on the side of the press.   Fill to the "1" for one scoop, fill to the "2" for two scoops, etc.   It's in our instructions, item 9.   If you don't have a press and instructions, you can read them here:

http://aerobie.com/Products/AeroPress%20Instructions.pdf

That link doesn't promote the product.   It's simply the instructions.

An Americano, be it from an espresso machine or an AeroPress, tastes smoother than drip brew.   The finished Americano has the same strength as drip, when measured by Brix or dehydration.   But the dilluted espresso or "AeroPresso" has less acid and tastes smoother because you haven't pushed an entire cup of water through the grounds and thus haven't over-extracted them.

Many Americano drinkers choose to make their cup stronger to take advantage of the superior smoothness.   To make it stronger, just try adding less water to the espresso.  For example try adding three ounces per espresso instead of four.

In practice, this is easy:  Put the AeroPress on your favorite mug and push a double (or a triple, if you like it stronger).   Then add water to fill up the mug.

Next greetings to James Hallahan,

I'm delighted that you're able to AeroPress in Iraq.   I'd like to send you a few cans of Illy Caffe coffee.   Their pressure-packed cans might be just the ticket for brewing out there.   Send me an email (alan@aerobie.com) with your address and I'll pick up a couple of cans from the local supermarket and send them.  I hasten to add that I have absolutely no connection with Illy.

We sent a bunch of Aerobie flying rings to Afganistan (Camp Blackhorse and Camp Phoenix) and the soldiers there sent us an American flag that had flown over the camp.   They also sent us some pics which we posted on our website:

http://aerobie.com/TheClubhouse/Countries/afghanistan.htm

I'll include some Aerobies with the coffee.

Sincerely,

Alan Adler
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joepfohl
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Posted Fri Jan 27, 2006, 10:24am
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Thanks for the info Alan. Once i get some money, seeing as I'm the typical broke college student, I'm gonna order one and see what it can do for me  in my dorm room.  Peace out folks.

 
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Posted Fri Jan 27, 2006, 11:06am
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Alan-

Tried the posted recipe for mocha and it tasted pretty good, I will have to do some side-by-side comparisons.  How long do you usually mix the water with the grounds for your espresso shots?  I know the instructions say 10, but I didn't know if that differed depending on the type of grind.  (Mine is fine/espresso ground)

I mixed for about 10 seconds this morning with about 175F water, filled just to the numeral 2 on the press.  (Yielded me about 2.5 oz)  I did notice that almost "burnt" smell in the grounds, but the resulting drink was not overly bitter.  I used cheap chocolate syrup, but I'm eagerly awaiting an ordered bottle of white chocolate sauce.

When you talk about using hotter water for that "edge", is that making the resulting extraction more bitter?
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Posted Fri Jan 27, 2006, 11:11am
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stinkyjones Said:

I don't necessarily think this is true.  I'm under the assumption that the rule was put in place to prevent people from free commercial posting, or in other words, if you are going to promote your product here, then you should pay to do so.

So much for August's guilt trip, i guess.

Given the feedback from a few members (most notably, my sidamo dealer whom i repsect greatly), i will drop the issue, but not without first making the following comments:
Just because the person who invented the product is the one who is promoting his product on the forum for free, it doesn't make it okay.
I find the lack of moderator comments on the subject very suspicious--other members have been issued strikes for much, much less.
Post number 2 from Alan was as follows:



Yeah, you're right--not a commercial post or a blatant attempt to sell product.

--Scott

Posted January 27, 2006 link

Actually I agree with you Stinky.  I've known quite a few people to have strikes issued against them for much less.  As for people talking about a product, that's fine.  Anyone who isn't making money off a product can discuss and talk all they want about it.   Technical info is great.  I have one of these and would like to see more about it.   Pushing a product is advertising.  Posting links to where you can buy a product is advertising  But, if people are asking you where to get it then it seems fair to post a link.  I dunno, I'm not a moderator.  

By the way, off topic for a sec..the flying rings rock.  We have several models and have loved them for years.   Sending them to deployed soldiers is way cool.  

Any kind of decent coffee is appreciated when you are in the field.  Making coffee in tents with 5 lb tins of preground coffee sucks.  Although, it 's better than the Taster's Choice instant packets in the MRE's :)

 
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Posted Fri Jan 27, 2006, 11:23am
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Hi Alan - I am to lazy to grind my own coffee and bought cans are hard to keep fresh so I was wondering if a coffee pod would work in the aeropress? if yes how would I do it. Hopefully mine will come today.
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