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richedie
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Posted Sat Jul 8, 2006, 10:39pm
Subject: Re: Confessions of a Brikka Lover
 

No, I wouldn't say the experience was as good as the coffee I had from my relative's moka pot.......but I haven't had the freshest beans in the pot as of yet.....nor enough time. The thing that bothered me was that he only used a blade grinder....if memory serves me correctly. I am thinking of buying a Capresso Infinity.

I have been grinding medium fine.
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Enkerli
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Joined: 1 Aug 2004
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Location: Montreal, Qc
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: (At cafés, not at home)
Grinder: Hario hand grinders
Vac Pot: (Moka Pot) Bialetti Brikka
Drip: Steep and release pour-over
Roaster: iRoast-2
Posted Sat Jul 8, 2006, 10:59pm
Subject: Re: Confessions of a Brikka Lover
 

Yeah, well, grind matters much less for moka pot (and Brikka) than it does for espresso. In fact, my very nice cup of two days ago was made with a very uneven and relatively coarse grind from a blade grinder (don't have access to my burr grinder right now). As awkward as it may sound, there's a slight possibility that an uneven grind (and an uneven roast, for that matter) may contribute to the complexity of the cup. But that one's just a thought.
You might want to focus your experimentation on the grounds to water ratio. And on taking the pot off the heat a little bit earlier.
At this point, you're already getting in the territory where advice and measurements would do little good. “Experience” and “practise” are difficult to transform into neat descriptions of procedure. Sure, it sounds like the variables are easy to control. But there's something about simply gaining experience with the pot.
Plus, the pot does get better with more batches, if you don't clean it too thoroughly.
G'night!

 
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richedie
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Posted Sun Jul 9, 2006, 12:42pm
Subject: Re: Confessions of a Brikka Lover
 

I am starting to think I could keep using my Cuisinart burr grinder and not gain much with a Capresso Infinity. Thoughts?

Anyway, this morning I made an amazing cup of moka coffee made in my small 4 cup Moka Express pot (which seems flimsier than the Bialetti) I may skip buying the Infinity grinder and instead get a new Brikka.

With the little moka pot I am having the water just below the pressure valve with the filter filled with medium fine ground coffee with a sprinkling of water on the grounds...over medium heat. I also take it off just before it finishes and I swear it compares to some great coffee/espressos I have had. I made a great cappuccino!
Of course not as dense as true espress nor as thick...but I kind of like that.

My wife's cousin who made me that great cup (which was comparable to mine this morning) was made a bit differently. He had set the gas to boil and left the pot on till last minute......it was popping and bubbling at the end because it was only pushing air by that point.

At this rate it will be tough to go back to drip coffee and maybe even press coffee. We'll see tomorrow.

I am still waiting for my vacuum pot.

In the end I want a method which will highlight the various characteristics of different coffees. I hear the Vac is good at that...
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kbuzbee
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Location: Mentor, Ohio
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Espresso: La Pavoni Europiccola
Grinder: Baratza Virtuoso Preciso
Vac Pot: Cona D
Drip: I don't drip
Posted Sun Jul 9, 2006, 12:58pm
Subject: Re: Confessions of a Brikka Lover
 

Vac pot (we have a Cona D) does show off the coffee nicely but (in a different way) so does the Brikka. I prefer the Brikka but my wife like the Cona much better.

Ken
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Gate
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Espresso: La Pavoni Romantica EPG-8
Grinder: Mazzer Super Jolly
Vac Pot: various
Drip: too many to recall
Roaster: Four FreshRoast+8's
Posted Sun Jul 9, 2006, 1:58pm
Subject: Re: Confessions of a Brikka Lover
 

Personally, I'm finding the Brikka to be the best at bringing out all the flavors of the coffee. Even the large pot. There are differences between them, but not as many as I had heard. At least, I'm finally getting a full cup of coffee in the morning!
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Enkerli
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Location: Montreal, Qc
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Espresso: (At cafés, not at home)
Grinder: Hario hand grinders
Vac Pot: (Moka Pot) Bialetti Brikka
Drip: Steep and release pour-over
Roaster: iRoast-2
Posted Sun Jul 9, 2006, 2:42pm
Subject: Re: Confessions of a Brikka Lover
 

You know, starting this thread was just a way for me to share my experience with those moka pots but it's soooo nice to see “satisfied customers” (especially for someone like me who couldn't sell bread for a penny!).
Glad to know the 4 cup Brikka isn't as “bad” as some have said. For some reason, it's reassuring.
In my very limited experience with either, vac pots and press pots have been pretty effective at bringing out the varietal flavours of most coffees. Moka pots, and the Brikka especially, seems to bring out more of the roast character.
Anyhoo... Really glad that people are getting such good experiences. One important point here is that there is more to coffee life than espresso. Not that espresso isn't awesome, but it can't be the answer to every question.

Thanks all!

 
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kbuzbee
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Location: Mentor, Ohio
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Espresso: La Pavoni Europiccola
Grinder: Baratza Virtuoso Preciso
Vac Pot: Cona D
Drip: I don't drip
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006, 5:12am
Subject: Re: Confessions of a Brikka Lover
 

Thanks to you , Alexandre, for starting this thread. It's been one of my favorites.

Ken
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richedie
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Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006, 5:34am
Subject: Re: Confessions of a Brikka Lover
 

With me loving my moka pots and with the upcoming purchase of a Brikka......I am going to find it difficult to use a french press again. Although it seems press coffee lasts a bit longer than moka. I can transfer it to a carafe. In the end...drip is best for that purpose in my opinion.
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Espresso: La Pavoni Romantica EPG-8
Grinder: Mazzer Super Jolly
Vac Pot: various
Drip: too many to recall
Roaster: Four FreshRoast+8's
Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006, 5:47am
Subject: Re: Confessions of a Brikka Lover
 

I haven't had drip or French Press in ages, now. I've even cut down on the espresso. Seems that I always want Brikka or moka. Even my husband has gotten bitten by the Brikka bug. Thanks, guys; I wouldn't have taken this particular plunge without this thread! I believe you could sell me bread, Alexandre! :-)

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richedie
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Posted Mon Jul 10, 2006, 6:17pm
Subject: Re: Confessions of a Brikka Lover
 

Good call...Brikka and Moka is awesome! But, Vacuum and Press seems to bring out certain characteristics a moka can't.
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