Coffee: Machines and Brewing Methods Something Looks Wrong With This Moka Pot Rancilio Essentials Pack Includes Silvia, Rocky, 20 oz Pitcher, Cleancaf, Group Brush, Coffee & 4 Cup and Saucer sets. www.wholelattelove.com   Not Logged in: log in updated topics   new posts   new unanswered   search   faq   sign up   Discussions > Coffee > Machines > Something Looks...   view previous topic | view next topic | view all topics Author Messages JeffPersson Senior Member Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 107 Location: Goodyear, AZ Expertise: I love coffee Espresso: Bialetti Moka Pot Grinder: LaSanMarco SM-90A Vac Pot: Yama 8-cup Drip: VP17-2 Roaster: Poppery I Posted Tue May 20, 2008, 9:34am Subject: Something Looks Wrong With This Moka Pot   Ok, I just received the 12-cup Bialetti Moka pot I bought almost two weeks ago, and while it looks to be un-used something looks wrong with the safety valve. In the picture attached, I have placed the base of my 6-cup Moka pot upside down in the top of the 12-cup pots base so you can see the two safety valves next to each other. The bottom one seems to be missing the little plunger thing. Does anyone have a 12-cup Bialetti Moka pot they can check to make sure this isn't supposed to be this way before I complain to the seller? (Click for larger image) back to top JeffPersson Senior Member Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 107 Location: Goodyear, AZ Expertise: I love coffee Espresso: Bialetti Moka Pot Grinder: LaSanMarco SM-90A Vac Pot: Yama 8-cup Drip: VP17-2 Roaster: Poppery I Posted Tue May 20, 2008, 9:34am Subject: Re: Something Looks Wrong Here   And here is a closeup of the safety valves. (Click for larger image) back to top svyerkgeniiy Senior Member Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 246 Location: New York City, NY Expertise: I love coffee Espresso: (-ish) Bialetti moka pot Grinder: Baratza Virtuoso Vac Pot: Yama (large 8-cup) Drip: Technivorm KBT; Sock-filter Roaster: Gene Café Posted Tue May 20, 2008, 9:39am Subject: Re: Something Looks Wrong Here   I'll be able to respond later tonight once I arrive home.  I have a 10-cup SS Bialetti myself :-).  At least I think it's 10-cup... anyway if it's the same valve type I'll be able to tell.   Donald Varona back to top DrugOfChoice Senior Member Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 54 Location: CT USA Expertise: I love coffee Espresso: Bialetti Moka, Aeropress Grinder: Rancilio Rocky Vac Pot: Yama 5 Cup Drip: Krups Moka Brew, Cuisinart... Posted Tue May 20, 2008, 9:56am Subject: Re: Something Looks Wrong Here   That looks wrong to me. I have six and nine cuppers and the valves are identical to each other, both with the little plunger thing.   Just because it happened to you doesn't make it interesting. In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. back to top JeffPersson Senior Member Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 107 Location: Goodyear, AZ Expertise: I love coffee Espresso: Bialetti Moka Pot Grinder: LaSanMarco SM-90A Vac Pot: Yama 8-cup Drip: VP17-2 Roaster: Poppery I Posted Tue May 20, 2008, 11:01am Subject: Re: Something Looks Wrong With This Moka Pot   Heard from Bialetti customer service. They said all the pots they have there have the little plunger thing in their safety valves. They are checking with Italy to see if it's still safe as is. back to top tjkoko Senior Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 304 Location: Deep South Expertise: I love coffee Espresso: SAMA Export and Ibrik Grinder: Baratza Virtuoso and Turkish... Drip: Pourover Swissgold Filter Posted Wed May 21, 2008, 5:58am Subject: Re: Something Looks Wrong With This Moka Pot   I own a Bialetti with the plunger type safety valve.  The plunger itself is articulated to remove scale buildup from around the inside portion of the safety valve - from around the inside of the pot itself. It's a newer design to the old style safety valve which, once blown, requires replacement.  The plunger type never needs replacement because it's spring-loaded.  Excessive pressure opens the valve which will close once pressure returns to a safe level. back to top JeffPersson Senior Member Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 107 Location: Goodyear, AZ Expertise: I love coffee Espresso: Bialetti Moka Pot Grinder: LaSanMarco SM-90A Vac Pot: Yama 8-cup Drip: VP17-2 Roaster: Poppery I Posted Thu May 22, 2008, 1:37pm Subject: Re: Something Looks Wrong With This Moka Pot   Yep, the word from Bialetti Italy was the valve is fine, it's the older version which they stopped making in 2004 and replaced with the inspectable safety valve. From Bialetti... Ref. To your request on the Moka 12cups and the relating valve, I would like to inform you that according to our Technician, nothing is missing on the mokas. The only difference is that one is the old safety valve fixed on the coffee makers until the year 2004, while the other one is the new implemented  inspect-able safety valve (with insert)  introduced in the year 2005 and fixed  on all our Bialetti products. Did you have some returns or complaints on this? I hope not . I remain at your complete disposal for other information, Kind regards Cristina back to top hukes Senior Member Joined: 23 Dec 2007 Posts: 6 Location: Mexico Expertise: I like coffee Espresso: Rancilio Silvia Grinder: Rancilio Rocky Posted Thu May 22, 2008, 5:07pm Subject: Re: Something Looks Wrong With This Moka Pot   I own four moka pots (all Bialetti): three steel and one aluminum. Of those, only the aluminum pot has the newer valve. back to top tjkoko Senior Member Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 304 Location: Deep South Expertise: I love coffee Espresso: SAMA Export and Ibrik Grinder: Baratza Virtuoso and Turkish... Drip: Pourover Swissgold Filter Posted Thu May 22, 2008, 7:22pm Subject: Re: Something Looks Wrong With This Moka Pot   Please explain the term "...inspectable safety valve...".  Is the the older/original type valve that requires replacement once blown? back to top JeffPersson Senior Member Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 107 Location: Goodyear, AZ Expertise: I love coffee Espresso: Bialetti Moka Pot Grinder: LaSanMarco SM-90A Vac Pot: Yama 8-cup Drip: VP17-2 Roaster: Poppery I Posted Tue May 27, 2008, 6:58pm Subject: Re: Something Looks Wrong With This Moka Pot   The "inspectable safety valve" is the one on the top in the pictures above. It is the newer design with the plunger that can be pushed from the inside. As for the older design, I don't know that it has to be replaced after it pops as it vented steam on the second brew I did, but hasn't since. back to top view previous topic | view next topic | view all topics Discussions > Coffee > Machines > Something Looks...   updated topics   new posts   new unanswered     search   faq   sign up   Not Logged in: log in Discussions Quick Jump: Select Espresso Discussions --Espresso Machines --Lever Espresso Machines --Grinders - Espresso --Espresso Mods and Restorations --Espresso Blends --Questions and Answers --Latte Art and Etching --Barista Jams Around the World --General Discussion Coffee Discussions --Machines and Brewing Methods --Home Roasting Talk --Questions and Answers --General Discussion Columns, How-Tos, and Reviews --Holiday Gift List Feedback --CoffeeGeek Columnist Feedback --Detailed Review Feedback --Products First Look Feedback --Quickshot Review Feedback --Guide Article Feedback --How-To Article Feedback --CoffeeGeek Podcast Feedback Members Forum --Bug Reports and Suggestions --Buy, Sell and Trade --Retail Coffee Jobs Offered / Wanted Ads --Coffee Recipes --Cafe and Bean Reviews --CoffeeGeek Site Info and News --General Off Topics World Regional --United States West --United States Central --United States East --Western Canada --Eastern Canada --United Kingdom --Western Europe --Eastern Europe, Nordic Countries, and Russia --Central and South America --Australia, New Zealand and Asia Symbols: = New Posts since your last visit      = No New Posts since last visit     = Newest post Forum Rules: No profanity, illegal acts or personal attacks will be tolerated in these discussion boards. 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