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Posted Thu Jan 6, 2011, 6:52am
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First Look

Several of us over at http://greencoffeebuyingclub.com bought shares into this new entry into the press pot market ($70).  We will ship it around the US, take it around the block a couple of times, kick the tires, and then ship it on to the next guy.  We end up by raffling it off.  Thought I would put up a 1st Look here since I have only seen Randy Glass's passing reference to it.  It needs some publicity.  Good entrant. This isn't a complete review.  Reviews should come with 3-months of counter space experience.  Rather, I will share my impressions after the first plunge.

Appearance. Attractive.  Hefty.  Professional looking.  Fingerprint Sponge (police detectives would love it if it were the murder weapon).  Well made (China and Canada). Plunger is sticky without water in the pot (resolves - see below).

Nuts n Bolts : French press grind.  22 grams to 11 ounces of water. I preheated the pot with hot tap water. There is a space (manufacturer suggests vacuum) between the outer shell and the inner wall.  When brewing, I used water 45 seconds off boil and the outer shell was room temperature to the touch.  Suggests that the coffee is insulated and not throwing heat.  Covered coffee with water, blooming for 20 seconds. Add remainder of water and capped it.

Plunged at 3:40.  Plunging had a 'ball bearing' feel to it, as opposed to the stickiness to the dry/cold pressing without water.  Suggests an extremely tight fit that particulates aren't going to get past -- unlike cheap Bodum knockoffs.

Filtering  Filtering system is better than generic/Bodum presspots because of 3 items:
^  Plunger has a very tight outer edge/lip that is in contact with outer wall.  Bodum or knockoffs use a coarser grade screen on the outer edge.  
^  Very fine mesh on basket as 1st filter.  Bodums or knockoffs mesh is coarser by far than the Espro Press.
^  Second filtering comes from very fine mesh on the top of the plunger.  A Bodum has no secondary filtering.

Cup? Call it a clean French press cup. Heavy body.  Rich with oils, flavors but without particulates that occlude/detract with a French press.  Coffee finishes too hot to drink (forgot to measure temp - next run).  Very minor amount of silt in cup bottom at 12 minutes. Let's estimate about 1/2 the silt of a press pot.

Cleanup.  Piece of cake.  Unscrew the plunger wand.  The basket filter separates from the top portion at an "o" ring.  Unsnap the parts, use your fingers, paper towel, or dish cloth to rub the oil and silt off the filter under very hot water.  Reassemble.  30 seconds.

Impressions?
^  Excellent clean heavy cup.  Would appeal to press pot fans.
^  I cupped this with an El Salvador San Jose Finca, one with which I am familiar.  The cup is much weighter than the pourover (Melitta whites) from the same coffee -- cupped them side by side this a.m. --  but that is to be expected.
^  Great eye-candy that holds it own.

Do I want to win it when we pick the gent who keeps it?  You bet.

Will I buy one if I don't win it? Does Wisconsin make good cheese?

Price.  $70.  Strikes me as high for the item but at the same time, I understand start-up costs, margins on limited production runs, etc.  Love to support a small manufacturer that is trying to enter the game.  Vancouver company who also makes the new Toroid bell shaped frothing pitching that Santa put on me.

http://www.espro.ca/espro-press/

Available at http://orphanespresso.com and http://chriscoffee.com , two of my absolute-ist favorite online folks.

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Posted Thu Jan 6, 2011, 7:38am
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Thanks for the review!
If this werent $70, I would buy it, but Ill have to stick with my bodum for now.

One of my main problems with the bodum, is that after ~40-50 brews, the mesh filter is folded/rippled along the edges, allowing the grounds that stick to the cup to go through (sometimes).
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Posted Thu Jan 6, 2011, 7:42am
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ChemistryNerd Said:

Thanks for the review!
If this werent $70, I would buy it, but Ill have to stick with my bodum for now...

Posted January 6, 2011 link

There will always be room on my shelf for my 48oz Bodum.  Great when we have cupping events for a crowd.   48 oz reigns

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Posted Sat Jan 8, 2011, 8:50am
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Ran the Espro Press at our assembled table of 6 cuppers last night.  It was a unanimous hit.  "Clean as paper but the fullness of a press pot."

Ten of us over at Greencoffeebuyingclub bought shares into it.  We had one of the cuppers young daughter pick the random number assigned to each "share owner ($7 each)."  RandyTsuch (CG member) sat with #4 and walked with it.  I get to play with it for the rest of the weekend and it will be in FedEx's hands on Monday for its ride to the next member.

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Roaster: RK Drum and Gene
Posted Fri Jan 14, 2011, 5:30pm
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Our model for testing and reviewing is circulating around among members.  We first two reviewers sent it on and turned right around and ordered our own unit.  I felt it a worthy addition to the caffeine arsenal. You can grab one at http://chriscoffee.com or http://orphanespresso.com.

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Posted Sat Jan 15, 2011, 9:32pm
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just bought one of these from Espressotec in Richmond, BC with a Vario grinder. using ground Illy Moka grind coffee (bought it 'cause the tins will be useful to me), so I can't say what it's like with 'fresh', but so far, I'm impressed. I'm not sure if I did my first pour wrong, but I found there was liquid left inside the press after I had poured 'all' that I thought it had. it makes for a strong cup of coffee! it recommends using 7 to 8g of coffee per 100ml. I used 24g to 350ml of water...and it's strong! :-D
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Posted Thu Jan 27, 2011, 5:33am
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After about a month of constant use, I put up a review of the Espro Press.  Superb product.  Others with experience with it - consider adding a review.  Good product that deserves more "eyeball time."  Here's the review:

Click Here (www.coffeegeek.com)

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Posted Sun Feb 13, 2011, 9:30pm
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Last week I received one that I had ordered from OrphanEspresso and my husband and I were so pleased with it that we ordered 2 more.  We've been aeropress user's for years now because we don't like the muddiness of regular french press coffee.  The difference in flavor between the aeropress and Espro Press are night and day (although we are still waiting for the Coava metal disk filters for the aeropress for comparison.)  The Espro Press has the additional ability to hold heat while the coffee is blooming"?" is another big plus.  We really enjoyed the additional flavor brought out by the oils which are filtered by the aeropress paper filter.  The stainless steel and microfilter unit are very easy to clean.  The Espro press is well worth the money if you can fit it into your budget.
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Posted Fri Mar 25, 2011, 9:11pm
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Thumbs up on the Espro Press from me too.  It makes a damn good cup of coffee avoiding many of the pitfalls of other methods.

My favorite aspect is consistency.  I normally use vacpot and struggle to keep enough steam flowing while brewing to keep the brew up in the upper chamber without going over my target temp.  I'm always flame-surfing the pot on the stove with big temperature variations in the brew and the occasional partial premature drawdown.

The Espro Press avoids all this with an excellent vacuum insulation that does a great job at maintaining temp.  I find my coffee much more consistently mellow and balanced with the Espro Press.   The design preserves the oils and they are visible and flavorful.

I also get a very present body and real mouthfeel.  The Espro Press leaves a touch more super-fine silt in the cup than I'm used to with my vacpot (I use a very fine steel mesh filter), but that's not necessarily a bad thing.  Though normally a fan of clearer coffee, I'm coming to enjoy it.  There are none of the typical french press straggler grounds.

I don't like the construction of the filter.  The entire filter basket is made of plastic instead of steel and surprise, surprise, it broke the first time I tried to reassemble it after washing.  To its credit Espro replaced the basket at no charge - great customer service.  But the design is a weak point I fear will bite me in the future.  The two portions of filter basket must fit firmly together yet there is a narrow window of force that makes that union without breaking the basket.

I also don't like how much coffee is left behind - 2 ounces.  The design keeps you from getting that coffee out because you can only press so far down on the plunger.

Other than these points, the Espro Press genuinely improves upon the French Press concept.  It will serve me well as a new standard, go-to method rivaling if not exceeding my normal vacpot method.
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Posted Fri Mar 25, 2011, 10:23pm
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BoldJava Said:

After about a month of constant use, I put up a review of the Espro Press.  Superb product.  Others with experience with it - consider adding a review.  Good product that deserves more "eyeball time."  Here's the review:

Click Here (www.coffeegeek.com)

B|Java

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Dave,

Do you have a Clever Coffee Dripper?  If so, I was wondering how the Espro Press compares to it.  I have a Clever with a gold filter and find the cup very similar to a conventional press pot (a bit less silt).  If I was using paper of course there wouldn't be the silt; but I hate paper filters and choose the metal.

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