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hyacinth
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Posted Mon Oct 10, 2011, 10:49am
Subject: Putting fresh boiling water into an auto drip coffeemaker
 

After spending a small fortune, I gave up on trying to find an ADC that gets the H2O hot enough.

Yeah, yeah I know I can use a Chemex or Melitta pour over, but it's tedious to wait for each basket full of water run through the grounds, then keep adding water until the pot is full.

So, I've been boiling water and putting it into the ADC reservoir and turning the switch on and letting the machine run its cycle.

The coffee comes out piping hot, as it should be.

 
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Posted Mon Oct 10, 2011, 11:59am
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There are a lot of brewers that get hot enough, Bunn for example.

Be carefull pouring hot water into a machine designed for cold water, the parts were not intended for that type of service and they may fail early or unexpectedly.

 
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Posted Mon Oct 10, 2011, 10:58pm
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Putting hot water in the tank will lead to the filter pouring over during brewing, because the machine, not having to heat the water, will run too fast.

 
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Posted Thu Oct 13, 2011, 7:50am
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NobbyR Said:

Putting hot water in the tank will lead to the filter pouring over during brewing, because the machine, not having to heat the water, will run too fast.

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I've never had the basket overflow with the ADC I'm using.

It has a "strength selector," it goes from "mild" to "full brew," so I slide the indicator to the full setting. The water flows more slowly on this setting.

 
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Posted Thu Oct 13, 2011, 8:02am
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hyacinth Said:

I've never had the basket overflow with the ADC I'm using...

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It happened to me I put hot water into my Melitta.

 
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Posted Thu Oct 13, 2011, 3:15pm
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Hyacinth,

I frequently use your mentioned method with a teapot, and have had no trouble at all.  In fact, I recommend to friends that doing so is the #3 best thing to improve their kitchen's coffee immediately. (#1=freshly roasted coffee, #2=freshly, properly ground coffee).

It's a great way to get good coffee out of a machine that either you already have or that doesn't cost $100 (Bunn) or $300 (TV).

Timing the brew cycle will help you adjust the grind to nail down the extraction.  Also, after you dump in the boiling water into the machine, run the machine to just wet the grounds and then turn it off for 30 secs or so.  Then turn it back on and let it run the cycle. This preinfusion can (will) result in a better extraction and taste profile.

The question begged, of course, is whether you are using good freshly roasted whole bean and a decent (burr) grinder.  If not, these are candidates for your next steps, in my opnion.  Presumably, you have this nailed down already.

In fact, for those looking to improve their coffee brewer with a budget of $100, I would say:

  1. Spend the $100 on a refurb Baratza grinder and a bag of freshly roasted, quality coffee
  2.  Clean your old Mr. Coffee really really well with baking soda or Cafiza
  3.  Descale the thing
  4.  Follow Hyacinth's instructions, with the preinfusion noted above.

That's what I would do if someone asked me to upgrade their typical American kitchen coffee with a budget of $100.


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