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brianmch
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Espresso: Livia 90
Grinder: Mazzer
Drip: French Press
Roaster: Fav-Parisi, Kansas City
Posted Thu Apr 12, 2012, 4:33pm
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I chucked mine because it was such a PITA.
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Joel_B
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Espresso: Astra Mega II
Grinder: Mazzer SJ, Virtuoso
Vac Pot: Yama 5 cup
Drip: nope, french press
Roaster: Behmor, WP, BBQ drum
Posted Thu Apr 12, 2012, 4:43pm
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brianmch Said:

I chucked mine because it was such a PITA.

Posted April 12, 2012 link

Seriously? I thinks it one of the easiest, quickest  brewing method I have lol
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germantownrob
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Espresso: Duetto 3, A Dead Oscar
Grinder: Vario-W, Preciso w/Esatto,...
Drip: Brazen
Roaster: Diedrich IR-1, HT B
Posted Thu Apr 12, 2012, 4:45pm
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brianmch Said:

I chucked mine because it was such a PITA.

Posted April 12, 2012 link

Interesting, the onlything easier IMO is pour over and not by much.
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frank828
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Drip: Brazen, CCD, Aeropress, V60,...
Roaster: Behmor, Air Crazy
Posted Thu Apr 12, 2012, 4:45pm
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haha that also just inspired me to use my aeropress because i know how easy it is.

waiting on my kettle to boil right now.  grounds ready to go in the tube.    time to brew.
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frank828
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Posted Thu Apr 12, 2012, 4:49pm
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coffee is in the cup.  done.

:)
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Joel_B
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Posted Thu Apr 12, 2012, 5:39pm
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4:45 PDT

frank828 Said:

haha that also just inspired me to use my aeropress because i know how easy it is.

waiting on my kettle to boil right now.  grounds ready to go in the tube.    time to brew.

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4:49 PDT

frank828 Said:

coffee is in the cup.  done.

:)

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Lol, nice!  

I really need to get mine out, dust if off, and do it some justice.
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JKalpin
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Espresso: Aerobie Aeropress
Grinder: Baratza Maestro Plus
Vac Pot: Yama 5-Cup
Drip: Krups Moka Brew, BraZen
Roaster: Freshroast+8, Behmor 1600
Posted Thu Apr 12, 2012, 7:25pm
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One more thing about bloom:

some coffees have it and some don't.

I have been brewing an El Salvador and a Sumatra Mandheling alternately, in my Krups Moka Brew (which shows the bloom).  The El Sal has lottsa bloom and the Sumatra has hardly any.

They were both roasted 15 seconds into the 2CR and rested for 4-5-6 days.

 
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Posted Thu Apr 12, 2012, 7:34pm
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brianmch Said:

I chucked mine because it was such a PITA.

Posted April 12, 2012 link

Heh, I just chucked my lever machine (on CL) because I much prefer the taste, speed, and quick cleanup of the AP.

 
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Posted Fri Apr 13, 2012, 4:06am
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JP, you're prolly right on the miscalculation.  I did just check with 60 deg F water, my clear plastic AP is around 302g of water.

I've done other checks with finely ground 2-day post grind coffee with no bloom and nearly (15 second) settling. If it sinks in water, I reasoned it's got to be more dense. The particles also respond beautifully to centrifugation.  Obviously, some of the initial bouyancy is due to co2 bloom, but that's only the beginning of the steep.

When I measure dry coffee, I'm always surprised that the beans and unpacked grounds are similar volume. Once you mix them with water, though, the coffee grounds particles must be close to coffee/water density (very close based on a couple of checks in the past) - once they are waterlogged.

Jkalpin is right, bloom is dependent on roast level, grind level, degree of green and roasted aging, and type of bean. I haven't had consistent results so I can't personally conclude that one varietal is more bloom-prone vs others given same roast parameters, but there is significant variation and I've just done bloom suppression to take that variation out of brewing process.

 
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jpender
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Grinder: Kyocera CM-50
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Posted Fri Apr 13, 2012, 1:09pm
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Netphilosopher Said:

JP, you're prolly right on the miscalculation.  I did just check with 60 deg F water, my clear plastic AP is around 302g of water.

Posted April 13, 2012 link

You just multiplied by the density instead of divided. I made the exact same mistake (twice in a row) the other day.


Netphilosopher Said:

I've done other checks with finely ground 2-day post grind coffee with no bloom and nearly (15 second) settling. If it sinks in water, I reasoned it's got to be more dense. The particles also respond beautifully to centrifugation.  Obviously, some of the initial bouyancy is due to co2 bloom, but that's only the beginning of the steep.

Posted April 13, 2012 link

According to Illy, "typical" espresso is 1.02 g/ml with 53 mg/ml solids. That implies a coffee solids density of 1.6 g/ml (or 0.62 ml/g). I'm not sure if that includes the lipids.

What I thought to do was add coffee grounds to water topped up to a precise volume. Then the weight would give me the density of the solids. But when I tried this with cold water there were all of these little tiny bubbles in the mixture that were very persistent. It looked like a flask of Guinness. With all that extra gas and the buoyed up grounds and foam what I initially came up with was 0.8 g/ml. Then after stirring and waiting half an hour it was 1.0 g/ml. Another half an hour and it settled at around 1.3 g/ml.

I tried it again using hot water. After the water cooled there was no gas and very little crud on top. I topped up the flask and got about 1.4 g/ml (0.74 ± .05 ml/g).

But I was wondering how different are the densities of the soluble and insoluble fractions? And might there be a significant volume contraction when the coffee dissolves? Those tiny gas bubbles sure displaced a lot of water.


I was kind of hoping it was something you'd explored. I'll bet you have a fat notebook filled with interesting observations about coffee.
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