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Posted Mon Apr 16, 2012, 10:56pm
Subject: Cold Brew or Hot Brew? Which one is the superior method?
 

As a relative beginner in the world of coffee, although I know a bit about water temperatures and whatnot, I find myself beginning to ask questions about the differences between hot brew methods and cold brew, and which is better.

The SCAA has several hot brew coffee machines it has given the nod to which brew within a range of temperature guidelines and brew times.

I'm wondering can any of you Coffee Geeks help me with why cold brew is not considered -- (or maybe indeed it is considered?) -- a legitimate contender in the world of coffee by such organizations as the SCAA? (And if it is, please forgive the error.)

Is one method, hot brew or cold brew, superior over the other?

Or are both methods just "different" from one another, with neither being superior?

Looking forward to your opinions. :)

 
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Posted Tue Apr 17, 2012, 8:44am
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Yup, Netphilosopher pretty much hit the nail on the head. Sam over at Craft Coffee blogged about this recently, basically noting that because cold brew leaves so many things unextracted, it tends to make all coffees taste the same. Good if bulk consistency and smoothness is your goal, bad if you really want to taste the best the beans have to offer.

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Posted Tue Apr 17, 2012, 11:03pm
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Thank you, Netphilosopher and SoundGuyAndy for your responses and for the welcome. :)  I learned a lot and I appreciate that!

I have always made iced coffee using hot brew at a higher-than normal concentrate, although I don't have any special equipment for doing so.

That blog post was interesting reading, SoundGuyAndy, and Netphilosopher, thank you for explaining the differences between cold brew and hot brew and cold brew and "flash brewed" or "Japanese Iced." :^)

 
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Posted Tue Apr 17, 2012, 11:31pm
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In the tumblr blog post underneath in the third comment they discuss Kyoto style brewing. Is that considered a style of "Japanese iced"?

Netphilosopher, I found these machines on Amazon - are these "Japanese iced" or are these "cold brew"?

Cold Drip Coffee and Tea Maker, 8-Cup by Northwest Glass

There was also this one:

Yama Northwest Glass 32-Ounce Cold Brew Drip Coffee and Tea Maker, Black

For budget options for "flash brew" I would think the pour-over Chemex is a good option as shown in the blog post (although I'd be afraid of cracking the Chemex; I'd rather add the ice later) ... or using a stronger concentrate in an electric drip brewer. Instructions for doing that are here: How to flash-brew iced coffee in your drip pot

 
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Posted Wed Apr 18, 2012, 6:57am
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I wonder if it would be better to brew into an ice cream maker tub?  That way all the water touches grounds (no ice to dillute).  

I guess that's the question.  If you use 45g of coffee with 780g of water into an ice walled container, will that give you better results than brewing 515g of water through 63g of coffee onto 264g of ice cubes.
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