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Posted Sat Dec 22, 2012, 9:19pm
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Hmm, I suspected it might be scale, good to know about the screen.  I use a water softener for use in my kettles, for coffee, and espresso but I'll have to keep an eye on this.

 
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Posted Sun Dec 23, 2012, 8:56am
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In Thornhill, Ontario (Canada) our water is moderately hard.

I have a Panasonic hot-pot (kind of a kettle) that keeps water at 190F and gets refilled as needed.  It has lots of scale and I clean it regularly.  Per their instructions I use citric acid (powder) dissolving 80 grams in 3 litres of water and let it do a slow boil for an hour.  It comes out absolutely free of scale, including the little outlet screen which tends to clog up.

I recently bought an Air-O-Swiss Humidifier.  The manual says to clean it every 2 weeks.  The cleaner called EZCal is, in fact, citric acid, and the concentration is the same.  They say ...to mix it at 140F and let it soak for 1/2 hour.  

I buy Citric Acid from an online spice store in Calgary, Alberta, for about $40/kg (including S&H).  It is not a cleaner; it is a food additive called Sour-Salt, used for Russian cabbage-borsht and (no doubt) Chinese hot-and-sour soup.  Because it is a food additive it is probably safe to use in a coffee-maker (rinse-out after using).  Look here.

 
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Posted Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:43am
Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)
 

JKalpin Said:

In Thornhill, Ontario (Canada) our water is moderately hard.

I have a Panasonic hot-pot (kind of a kettle) that keeps water at 190F and gets refilled as needed.  It has lots of scale and I clean it regularly.  Per their instructions I use citric acid (powder) dissolving 80 grams in 3 litres of water and let it do a slow boil for an hour.  It comes out absolutely free of scale, including the little outlet screen which tends to clog up.

I recently bought an Air-O-Swiss Humidifier.  The manual says to clean it every 2 weeks.  The cleaner called EZCal is, in fact, citric acid, and the concentration is the same.  They say ...to mix it at 140F and let it soak for 1/2 hour.  

I buy Citric Acid from an online spice store in Calgary, Alberta, for about $40/kg (including S&H).  It is not a cleaner; it is a food additive called Sour-Salt, used for Russian cabbage-borsht and (no doubt) Chinese hot-and-sour soup.  Because it is a food additive it is probably safe to use in a coffee-maker (rinse-out after using).  Look here.

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Sounds like a good method.  For US users Amazon has 5 lbs or 2.2 kg for $19.23 USD.   With Amazon Prime shipping is free.  

Click Here (www.amazon.com)

The Brazen only holds 1.9 litres so the 2.2 kg should do about 43 cleanings.   Perhaps a staged manual release method would allow stretching the soak out over a period of time to get longer contact with the screen if needed.
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Posted Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:48am
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JKalpin Said:

I buy Citric Acid from an online spice store in Calgary, Alberta, for about $40/kg (including S&H).  It is not a cleaner; it is a food additive called Sour-Salt, used for Russian cabbage-borsht and (no doubt) Chinese hot-and-sour soup.  Because it is a food additive it is probably safe to use in a coffee-maker (rinse-out after using).

Crap, that's $18.18/lb!!

How's $1/lb sound Jerry?, & they're basically right in your back yard.

cafedj Said:

Sounds like a good method.  Amazon has 5 lbs or 2.2 kg for $19.23 USD.   With Amazon Prime shipping is free.

Click Here (www.amazon.com)

The Brazen only holds 1.9 litres so the 2.2 kg should do about 43 cleanings.   Perhaps a staged manual release method would allow stretching the soak out over a period of time to get longer contact with the screen if needed.

Posted December 23, 2012 link

Posted about this a few times before, 10 lbs of citric acid for $10!

 
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Posted Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:50am
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CraigA Said:

Posted about this a few times before, 10 lbs of citric acid for $10!

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Nice, but don't see your link.
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Posted Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:53am
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Yeah, HAHA!
That's because I was still updating my post.. There isn't a link.
A person will have to go to the company directly as they have a retail/wholesale customer counter/store there.

The company:
Grain Process Enterprises Ltd.
115 Commander Boulevard,
Scarborough, Ontario.
M1S 3M7
http://preview.tinyurl.com/cnt4cns

It's been years since I bought my 10 lb 5 lb bag & still have a quantity even after giving away 1 or 2 lbs, so I'll call the company on Monday Dec 24th to confirm that the price is the same or whatever.

P.S. Added Sun Jan 13th @ 10:40AM. The price on the 5lb bag is $8.80.

 
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Posted Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:56am
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I have the same issue with a bit of water left for 600ml of brew and more for a full pot. I wonder if it is a chipset programming issue with the water flow. I simply go to manual brew after it has finished a cycle and the water simply drains out with no problem. I wonder if unplugging it and letting it sit for a few minutes  (and then recalibrate) would work re-setting the program in the chip...just a thought that if water does drain ok it may not be a build-up issue. Maybe if Joe browses the thread he can provide some light on the programming in easy terms
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Posted Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:01am
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CraigA Said:

Yeah, HAHA!
That's because I was still updating my post.. There isn't a link. A person will have to go to the company directly as they have a retail/wholesale customer counter/store there.

It's been years since I bought my 10 lb bag, so I'll call the company on Monday Dec 24th to confirm the price.

Posted December 23, 2012 link

Ah, Ontario.  Got it.
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Posted Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:03am
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The_Coffee_Guy Said:

I have the same issue with a bit of water left for 600ml of brew and more for a full pot. I wonder if it is a chipset programming issue with the water flow. I simply go to manual brew after it has finished a cycle and the water simply drains out with no problem. I wonder if unplugging it and letting it sit for a few minutes  (and then recalibrate) would work re-setting the program in the chip...just a thought that if water does drain ok it may not be a build-up issue. Maybe if Joe browses the thread he can provide some light on the programming in easy terms

Posted December 23, 2012 link

How much is "a bit" with your 600ml brew?  I do 800ml daily and have a small puddle left in the reservoir but nothing that bothers me or seems to cause any issues.
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Posted Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:04am
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I would say coats the bottom (50ml) after the 600ml brew and I agree it is not an issue. Still makes the best coffee around :)
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