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Posted Tue May 8, 2012, 7:35pm
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I know the fully automatic machines are supposed to make this kind of coffee but does anyone know if it can be made on an ordinary espresso machine?  Thanks!
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Posted Tue May 8, 2012, 8:30pm
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Coffee Crema is not a coffee.  Crema is a component of espresso.  Most super automatic espresso machines actually do a poor job of producing it (this board is replete with stories about such); whilst ordinary espresso machines (ordinary as in levers, semi-autos, and variations of them) do a decent to spectacular job of producing it according to quality  of machine and experience of user.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crema_(coffee)#crema

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There are far more experienced espresso machine users on this board than I; maybe they can add their 2 cents worth also.

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Posted Wed May 9, 2012, 1:56am
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Cafe Crema is in fact a correctly extracted long coffee with a decent crema, generally 150ml extracted in 28 seconds, and any pump espresso machine can do it. You DO need a decent grinder, though. See http://www.coffeeco.com.au/articles/challenge.html towards the bottom.

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Posted Wed May 9, 2012, 3:42am
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alanfrew Said:

Cafe Crema is in fact a correctly extracted long coffee with a decent crema, generally 150ml extracted in 28 seconds, and any pump espresso machine can do it.

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That is correct. It's a Swiss specialty coffee, which is also called "Schümli".

 
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Posted Wed May 9, 2012, 8:23pm
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Thanks Guys.  Not many people know what Cafe Crema is and fewer know how to make it.  I appreciate the advice.
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Posted Thu May 10, 2012, 8:08am
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Coffee Crema is not a coffee.  Crema is a component of espresso.

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Len, as you (probably) know by now, the confusion comes from the dual use of the word "crema."

Crema is indeed -- for lack of a better description -- a component of a properly pulled espresso shot.

Coffee Crema is a specific beverage, an "über lungo" that is approx. 150ml (5 ounces) . . .

 
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Posted Thu May 10, 2012, 9:28am
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JasonBrandtLewis Said:

Len, as you (probably) know by now, the confusion comes from the dual use of the word "crema."

Crema is indeed -- for lack of a better description -- a component of a properly pulled espresso shot.

Coffee Crema is a specific beverage, an "über lungo" that is approx. 150ml (5 ounces) . . .

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I never knew that.  "Learning all the time", like Benny Hill used to say.

On a side note I would like to hold a brief moment of silence for my beloved Krups Superauto.  I had to bury it yesterday after a few years of service.  It had a short, but very eventful life.  I screwed up the bean grinder part of it; choked the grinds outlet where it dumps them into the "portafilter" thingy.  The motor wouldnt stop trying to grind; pulled the plug, just wanted to keep grinding after I plugged it back in again.  Finally the motor gave out.  Couldn't resusitate it.

It will always hold a special place in my heart.  Sniffle. Sniffle.

I can see the smile on your face right now:  ANOTHER SUPERAUTO BITES THE DUST!

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Posted Tue May 15, 2012, 12:08pm
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I know the fully automatic machines are supposed to make this kind of coffee but does anyone know if it can be made on an ordinary espresso machine?  Thanks!

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I make them on my Quick Mill semi-auto all the time (usually as my after-dinner coffee). Here's a short thread about it. Like Alan, I use 14g of coffee to generate about 120ml of brewed coffee.

 
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