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SmokeAndMirrors
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Posted Fri Jun 15, 2012, 2:29am
Subject: Yama vacuum brewer filter assembly - what is it made of, for pete's sake!?
 

Hi everyone! I am really hoping someone can help me with this, because Google, no matter how relentlessly I harass it, does not seem to know the answer.

I am thinking about delving into the world of vacuum brewers with a Yama table top 5-cup model, and there is really just one more thing I want to know.

What is the filter assembly made of?

Not the filter itself, the assembly, with the chain, that the filter attaches to. Every site just says "metal." Well, yes, but what kind of metal? Does anyone know?

I try to avoid plastics, aluminum, etc, in things that I will have exposed to high heat and/or acidity, that I plan to consume the contents of. I just want to know what that thing is made of!

Heck, at this point, even just letting me know if a magnet sticks to it will be helpful.

I know the Cona is glass, but I'm not ready to drop 200 bucks on something I'm not sure if I'll like, and I hear the glass filter is much more finicky. I'm new at this - I want as wide a berth for stupid newbie mistakes as I can get.

Thanks so much to anyone who can help me out.
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Posted Fri Jun 15, 2012, 3:54am
Subject: Re: Yama vacuum brewer filter assembly - what is it made of, for pete's sake!?
 

SmokeAndMirrors Said:

Hi everyone! I am really hoping someone can help me with this, because Google, no matter how relentlessly I harass it, does not seem to know the answer.

I am thinking about delving into the world of vacuum brewers with a Yama table top 5-cup model

Posted June 15, 2012 link

Buy it.  Wonderful piece of equipment.  Think about the stovetops for more convenience.

What is the filter assembly made of?

Inexpensive steel alloy.  The filter is cotton.

I know the Cona is glass, but I'm not ready to drop 200 bucks on something I'm not sure if I'll like, and I hear the glass filter is much more finicky.

Though I have never used a Cona, I don't see how the upscale design and price will result in a different cup.  I use my Yamas (5- and 8-cup stovetops) every day.

RE:  Glass filter.  Unless you have a high-end grinder ($450+), stay away from a glass rod.  Cheaper grinder produce a variety of grind size, to include fine dust.  That will clog a glass filter's extraction but you would be fine with the standard cotton that permits draw down.

 
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Posted Fri Jun 15, 2012, 6:27am
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BoldJava Said:

Wisdom

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What he said.

 
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Posted Fri Jun 15, 2012, 11:50am
Subject: Re: Yama vacuum brewer filter assembly - what is it made of, for pete's sake!?
 

BoldJava Said:

Buy it.  Wonderful piece of equipment.  Think about the stovetops for more convenience.

Inexpensive steel alloy.  The filter is cotton.

Though I have never used a Cona, I don't see how the upscale design and price will result in a different cup.  I use my Yamas (5- and 8-cup stovetops) every day.

RE:  Glass filter.  Unless you have a high-end grinder ($450+), stay away from a glass rod.  Cheaper grinder produce a variety of grind size, to include fine dust.  That will clog a glass filter's extraction but you would be fine with the standard cotton that permits draw down.

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Thank you so much! Where did you manage to find what Google couldn't? I do research as part of how I make a living, and I still couldn't find it.

I was thinking of getting the steel mesh filter for ease of cleaning. As much as I enjoy the rituals of creating things, I don't necessarily enjoy the rituals of cleaning it up quite as much. ;)

I was actually thinking the tabletop variety would be more convenient. I could have it on my table while I read the news or whatever, tending to it when needed. I know the alcohol burner is probably a bit slow, but I could get the butane burner instead or just use heated water Is there something about it that makes it less convenient?

That's what I was thinking as well, re: the Cona. Some people seem to prefer the Yama, and not enough prefer the Cona to justify its price tag to me, especially since I don't even know at this point how I like vac-pots. I am definitely not packing the grinder to deal with that pickiness of a glass filter, either.

My main concern was avoiding aluminum. But I probably would have gotten a French press, rather than the Cona, if that had been the case.
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Posted Fri Jun 15, 2012, 6:10pm
Subject: Re: Yama vacuum brewer filter assembly - what is it made of, for pete's sake!?
 

SmokeAndMirrors Said:

Thank you so much! Where did you manage to find what Google couldn't? I do research as part of how I make a living, and I still couldn't find it.

...

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Just a ton of time on the vacpots.  I keep a stash of about 24-30 glass rods around; Corys, Cornings, Silex, Pyrex, and Cona.  I have one Silex ceramic filter that looks just like the current Yama metal/cloth filter.  Probably 75 years old.  It is identical to the one in the picture here at OrphanEspresso.com one of my favorite vendors.

Also take a look at their stainless steel filter.  See if the filter might work for you.

Enjoy, BoldJava

 
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Posted Fri Jun 15, 2012, 10:47pm
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BoldJava Said:

Just a ton of time on the vacpots.  I keep a stash of about 24-30 glass rods around; Corys, Cornings, Silex, Pyrex, and Cona.  I have one Silex ceramic filter that looks just like the current Yama metal/cloth filter.  Probably 75 years old.  It is identical to the one in the picture here at OrphanEspresso.com one of my favorite vendors.

Also take a look at their stainless steel filter.  See if the filter might work for you.

Enjoy, BoldJava

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Thanks for the links! Those look great. You've been awesomely helpful.
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Posted Sun Jun 17, 2012, 5:07pm
Subject: Re: Yama vacuum brewer filter assembly - what is it made of, for pete's sake!?
 

Another question. I'm going to guess that the coffee I make the first couple of times won't be great. I have some cheap back-up coffee, pre-ground,  sitting around for those days I'm either too lazy or forgot to get to the store.

Can I use that to make coffee in a vacuum brewer or will it clog the filter? Knowing the chances of me getting it right the first time aren't great, I'd rather not use my good coffee when I have a drum of coffee I won't feel bad throwing away sitting right there.

What sort of grind works best in vac-pots and how will cheap pre-ground fare in a cloth or steel filter?
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Posted Sun Jun 17, 2012, 6:37pm
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P.S. Do I need to get the steel filter + holder as linked by BigJava, or can I just get the filter by itself?

Click Here (www.orphanespresso.com)
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Posted Mon Jun 18, 2012, 6:21am
Subject: Re: Yama vacuum brewer filter assembly - what is it made of, for pete's sake!?
 

SmokeAndMirrors Said:

P.S. Do I need to get the steel filter + holder as linked by BigJava, or can I just get the filter by itself?

Click Here (www.orphanespresso.com)

Posted June 17, 2012 link

The one I linked to is a stand-alone.  The one you linked to, as stated below the product (see your link), is used in conjunction with the Yama contraption.

RE:  Coffee - put that old store ground coffee into the garden.

 
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Posted Tue Jun 19, 2012, 8:21am
Subject: Re: Yama vacuum brewer filter assembly - what is it made of, for pete's sake!?
 

SmokeAndMirrors Said:

I am thinking about delving into the world of vacuum brewers with a Yama table top 5-cup model, and there is really just one more thing I want to know.

What is the filter assembly made of?

Not the filter itself, the assembly, with the chain, that the filter attaches to. Every site just says "metal." Well, yes, but what kind of metal? Does anyone know?

I try to avoid plastics, aluminum, etc, in things that I will have exposed to high heat and/or acidity, that I plan to consume the contents of. I just want to know what that thing is made of!

Posted June 15, 2012 link

I don't know, but my impression is that it's not a very high quality metal.  Like a bathtub drain & toilet flush chain, it feels pretty cheap to the touch.   And I'm thinking the same thing.  Here we are using a vacuum pot & being so close to having an all glass setup, only to compromise it with this cheap metal, nasty cloth in a cup in your frig, or plastic filters etc.  But I got over it.  After trying a few things, the metal screen holder (minus the metal screen mesh) + paper disk filters just work so well for me that I'm not even motivated to make one of the cory rods off ebay work for the yama anymore.  My only nitpick, & it doesn't look like it will apply to you with the 5c, is narrow opening large bowl bottom.  But other than that & the bathtub drain cover, these things are higher quality than what I expected for $20!  I've tinked it against the sink edge & elsewhere, so far so good (hopefully I'm not subconsciously trying to break it to justify buying a cona).


I know the Cona is glass, but I'm not ready to drop 200 bucks on something I'm not sure if I'll like, and I hear the glass filter is much more finicky.  

Oh I think you need all that glass.  I mean if you want a system to handle what you want. Yeah, you need the glass.
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