As I stated before - I'm looking for something that can make about 375g of normal strength coffee, or 350g of double strength coffee. I figure you need about 450ml capacity. Current capacity is about 270 and must be shorted if the coffee is overly bloomey.
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Posted Sat Aug 18, 2012, 7:21pm Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
Kafeman Said:
Hi again NetPhilosopher,
When you say:
"Step 1) pour some of your water into a clean pyrex measuring cup. etc. etc. ... Step 4) put your water in the microwave and heat it to a rolling boil. Then, CAREFULLY remove it and stir for ~1 minute, then cover with plastic and allow to cool."
This is dangerous advice not properly explained. A good conditioned borosilicate glass (Pyrex, etc.) measuring cup can be extremely smooth and when heated in a microwave will easily superheat to 215 to 216 degrees F and NEVER reach a rolling boil. So unless anyone doing this is experienced with their borosilicate glass, or has scribed the inside of it purposely, *CAREFULLY* removing it is worse thanroughly grabbing it.
It is easy to have the superheated water go from seemingly placid to an explosive boil scalding your face if you have carefully moved it and then looked in it as you put in the stirrer as recommended. Do not play with this, when it happens, over 50% of the superheated boil contents can be launched a few feet out of the glass, just by the contact with the stirrer which do what the microwave wouldn't: seed the liquid so the boiling vapors can form on its surface.
Actually, I happen to use a borosilicate cup to boil my water. I found a quartz crystal in the desert which provides excellent cruystal corners for seeding the boil and creating the closest to a rolling boil you can get in a microwave, and all this at 212, to boot ( at standard pressure ;-)) This reminds me of another thing I've been wondering, but that deserves another thread!
If anyone like the idea of a quartz crystal, esentially as a boiling chips for food, and especially for an Aeropress if you happen to like nuking your water in borosilicate measuring cups let me say it really adds to the mystique of my creative coffeemaking process to the unsuspecting person who's coffee is a teaspoon of the instant stuff and wonders if the crystal is part of my secret for such good coffee...I'm not going to say it is safe for food contact, but in my case I soaked it in aqua regia and the for good measure I let it soak in vinegar as well as coca cola for a few changes. The crystal really is bright and it avoids using some other small boiling chips (or just a glass stir bar, for example) which might fall into the Aeropress and score it inside of the piston chamber.
My girlfriend jokes that when I decide to use a diamond instead she'll learn to make coffee the way I like it ...
Of course, you're correct - microwaving water must be done with care.
------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Le café doit être noir comme le diable, chaud comme l'enfer, pur comme un ange, et doux comme l'amour.
"There is no right answer with coffee. There is only the elixir in your cup at the moment you partake."
"...I often say that when you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meagre and unsatisfactory kind;..." - Lord Kelvin RECIPES thread => http://www.coffeegeek.com/forums/coffee/machines/585708
Posted Sat Aug 18, 2012, 7:25pm Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
Netphilosopher Said:
As I stated before - I'm looking for something that can make about 375g of normal strength coffee, or 350g of double strength coffee. I figure you need about 450ml capacity. Current capacity is about 270 and must be shorted if the coffee is overly bloomey.
I may be wrong, and not to be presumptious, but I believe Alan is asking how many times out of 10 (as an example) do you wish to do the higher capacity?
Len
"Coffee leads men to trifle away their time, scald their chops, and spend their money, all for a little base, black, thick, nasty, bitter, stinking nauseous puddle water." ~The Women's Petition Against Coffee, 1674
Alan. At the moment I use my Aeropress to make a couple of 12 oz cups before leaving for work in the morning," Aero-carno" style. I think a 12 or 14oz capacity Aeropress would be perfect.
Posted Sat Aug 18, 2012, 7:56pm Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
CoffeeRoastersClub Said:
I may be wrong, and not to be presumptious, but I believe Alan is asking how many times out of 10 (as an example) do you wish to do the higher capacity?
10/10 for me. The CCD with a #4 melitta filter holds about 425g of water and 28g of coffee, and produces about 360g on average.
240g brew water : 16g brew coffee makes about 220g produced coffee at ~1.25% strength, a bit short of my desire for ~350g produced coffee.
I can get same(ish) strength with 240:27.5g, get about 200-205g of coffee that dilutes to 350g at ~1.25(ish)% strength.
------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Le café doit être noir comme le diable, chaud comme l'enfer, pur comme un ange, et doux comme l'amour.
"There is no right answer with coffee. There is only the elixir in your cup at the moment you partake."
"...I often say that when you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meagre and unsatisfactory kind;..." - Lord Kelvin RECIPES thread => http://www.coffeegeek.com/forums/coffee/machines/585708
paulbel Senior Member Joined: 26 Apr 2008 Posts: 127 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: aeropress Grinder: conical burr (cuisinart) Drip: sometimes
Posted Sat Aug 18, 2012, 8:02pm Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
For me, it's about 4/10. But to be more precise, it's for whenever there are 3 or more people wanting coffee. I can make coffee for 2 with my aeropress, but not for 3 or 4.
I'd also suggest, Alan, that a larger size might be worth more money, in that, at least for someone like me, it would more likely to be used "for company" and therefore might also benefit from being a bit classier looking (actual glass?, lever?)
Posted Sat Aug 18, 2012, 8:36pm Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
Oh, well if upgrades are on the table, how about adding a little Trifecta-style check valve on the bottom to eliminate premature drip-through and render the inverted method obsolete? ;)
Posted Sat Aug 18, 2012, 8:59pm Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
jbviau Said:
Oh, well if upgrades are on the table, how about adding a little Trifecta-style check valve on the bottom to eliminate premature drip-through and render the inverted method obsolete? ;)
That would be the AeroPress steep-and-press. Like a CCD steep and release but the brewer is an AeroPress.
------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- Le café doit être noir comme le diable, chaud comme l'enfer, pur comme un ange, et doux comme l'amour.
"There is no right answer with coffee. There is only the elixir in your cup at the moment you partake."
"...I often say that when you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meagre and unsatisfactory kind;..." - Lord Kelvin RECIPES thread => http://www.coffeegeek.com/forums/coffee/machines/585708
sounds like we're fixing to repeat this thread's history all over again and start hammering on alan for:
1) a larger version 2) a glass version 3) a metal filter, (which now exists, btw) 4) his blind-taste-tested recipe, which uses cooler water and more coffee than the frugal, metal filter-obsessed, folks like 5) validation of the desperate hopes and dreams of the folks who can't accept that machines that make real espresso cost real money. (sorry, but the last, aerated bits of aeropress coffee at the end of the press are NOT "crema", in any way, shape, manner or form, no matter how hard you try to press).
maybe we can drive him away again:/sarcasm:
alan, since you asked, i have a need for a bigger aeropress about 1/100 pressings--at the most. i would not use the larger one often enough to justify the cost.
Posted Sun Aug 19, 2012, 11:04am Subject: Re: Aerobie Aeropress
Netphilosopher Said:
As I stated before - I'm looking for something that can make about 375g of normal strength coffee, or 350g of double strength coffee. I figure you need about 450ml capacity. Current capacity is about 270 and must be shorted if the coffee is overly bloomey.
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