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Ryanism85
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Posted Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:47am
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Hey guys, new to this forum. I've been perusing the boards for a bit and I recently went to a coffee shop that opened my eyes to coffee.

Right now I'm using a farberware percolator and I'm not too happy with it.  I recently went to a shop that served intelligentsia with the hario v60 and it was by far the best cup ive ever had. Because I'm really new to all this, im not sure that method would be great to start with.

What would you guys suggest?
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Posted Sun Sep 9, 2012, 2:44pm
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Ryanism85 Said:

Right now I'm using a farberware percolator and I'm not too happy with it.  I recently went to a shop that served intelligentsia with the hario v60 and it was by far the best cup ive ever had. Because I'm really new to all this, im not sure that method would be great to start with?

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How about getting a Hario V60 and buying Intelligentsia...?  
I can recommend the Espro Press as well as the soon-to-be-available Behmor Brazen (see reviews of both on my website).
In any case, two things are important with all methods of coffee preparation:
1 - Fresh, whole bean coffee. Fresh is calculated from the time the beans emerge from the roasting appliance. Any coffee that has a label stating "Best if used by.." should be avoided as all costs..
2 - A quality coffee grinder. Check the user reviews on this board for ideas, but for goodness sake, ASK US before purchasing a grinder.

 
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Ryanism85
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Posted Sun Sep 9, 2012, 3:27pm
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My only concern with the V60 is that it's one cup at a time? Or is it one cup concentrated but I heard you're supposed to add more water to it afterwards? Pardon my lack of knowledge on this.

I would like to be able to brew 2-4 mug fulls at a time.
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Posted Sun Sep 9, 2012, 3:37pm
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I was also looking at the Aeropress, but again I think it only makes 1 at a time?
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Posted Sun Sep 9, 2012, 3:58pm
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It all depends on just how involved you want to be with the process.

A cup at a time, as in Hario V60 or Abid Clever Coffee Dripper makes sure that you always get the freshest possible coffee, but you do have to grind, prep, and pour everytime.

If you absolutely have to make multiple cups at a time, something like a Chemex or other multi-cup manual pourover systems are the thing, but still requilre the grind, prep, and pour cycle, just not as often.

If you don't mind the grind and prep (and by prep, in this case, we're just talking about weighing/measuring the coffee, grinding it, putting it in the filter and giving it a gentle side to side shake to even out the bed of grounds), but don't necessarily want to heat up water in a kettle and manually pour it over, then you're looking at something like the Bonavita, Technivorm, or the soon-to-be-available Brazen Brewer.

If you just want coffee, there are always the systems that grind and brew. You put beans in, press a button, and out comes a pot of coffee. Not the first choice of the serious geek, but even a Cuisinart Grind'n'Brew is pretty much guaranteed to give you better coffee than a perk pot.

Just be glad you're not on the espresso train yet. That's when it starts getting complicated - ;-)
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Posted Sun Sep 9, 2012, 4:02pm
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Plus, I would second Randy's comments about the importance of beans and grinder. You have to have freshly roasted beans, properly ground just before brewing the coffee.
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Posted Sun Sep 9, 2012, 4:03pm
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GVDub Said:

It all depends on just how involved you want to be with the process.

A cup at a time, as in Hario V60 or Abid Clever Coffee Dripper makes sure that you always get the freshest possible coffee, but you do have to grind, prep, and pour everytime.

If you absolutely have to make multiple cups at a time, something like a Chemex or other multi-cup manual pourover systems are the thing, but still requilre the grind, prep, and pour cycle, just not as often.

If you don't mind the grind and prep (and by prep, in this case, we're just talking about weighing/measuring the coffee, grinding it, putting it in the filter and giving it a gentle side to side shake to even out the bed of grounds), but don't necessarily want to heat up water in a kettle and manually pour it over, then you're looking at something like the Bonavita, Technivorm, or the soon-to-be-available Brazen Brewer.

If you just want coffee, there are always the systems that grind and brew. You put beans in, press a button, and out comes a pot of coffee. Not the first choice of the serious geek, but even a Cuisinart Grind'n'Brew is pretty much guaranteed to give you better coffee than a perk pot.

Just be glad you're not on the espresso train yet. That's when it starts getting complicated - ;-)

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Haha baby steps, espresso will come when I have more money lol

I definitely don't mind grinding the coffee. Weighing it honestly takes maybe 8 seconds.  Is there a way to get 2 cups out of the aeropress or v60? Or it's 1 cup max per time you brew from it?
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Posted Sun Sep 9, 2012, 4:09pm
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"Cups" gets confusing in coffee. Most coffee makers, when they talk about a "cup" of coffee, are talking a 6 oz. standard coffee cup, not a 10-16 oz mug (and even a "mug" can vary widely, as we see there). You can get a mug's (as in 12 oz. mug) worth of coffee out of either a V60 or an Aeropress (Aeropress makes something that's almost a concentrate and you add hot water to dilute it, like you would an Americano at an espresso bar), but that's about it. They are both definitely single serving at a time brewing methods.
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Posted Sun Sep 9, 2012, 4:15pm
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I see. I think I may start with the Aeropress just because Bed Bath and Beyond has it right near me and they give you 30 days to try any product, if you don't like it, you can return it. If I'm not happy, I'll get the V60 afterwards.

Is there a type of pot I can get with the Aeropress so I can brew coffee directly into it one after another? Maybe something that it can connect to?

Also, has far as grinders go, I have a pretty small budget. I saw the Krups for $40 or so had good reviews.
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Posted Mon Sep 10, 2012, 8:48am
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Just be aware that with the AP it's very likely you're going to be using more coffee per cup
than with other methods.
I have a feeling that you might get tired of reloading the AP and making more coffee all the time -
in that you're looking for 2-4 cup volume.

Why not go on ebay - snag a Melitta BCM 4 cup machine -
then you can make 2 good sized mugs or 4 smaller cups when you brew.

In a pinch I've bought roasted beans from the store and used them in the BCM
and it still somehow made a cup that was palatable.
And when you put home roasted in! well....

I've heard these little machines will challenge a $300.00 Technivorm.
I also have a feeling that a blindfold side by side test might prove that true.
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