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EspressoLuv
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Posted Fri Sep 21, 2012, 6:55pm
Subject: Nespresso, surprising experience
 

I was shocked recently by some coffee I had in a corporate office.

Machine: Nespresso Gemini CS220 Pro
Cofee: Nespresso Ristretto Origin India
Process: cup under first group, press large cup button.

Result:
A quantity of water similar to about 5 espresso shots.
good crema.
a surprisingly good drink, I could drink them all day.

I tried other combinations of drink "size" and coffee pods and they all were drab.

I love espresso, but I also like a larger quantity of substance.  This either results in way too many quads or a diluted espresso...I mean Americano.
The above drink was quite a good compromise between both of these.

Has anybody any input into the Nespresso machine or a similar drink?

Thanks.
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Posted Fri Sep 21, 2012, 7:19pm
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I tried a couple "espresso" shots from a Nespresso at the local Williams-Sonoma.  I was impressed by the flavor, but not enough to buy into the pod program.

 
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Posted Fri Sep 21, 2012, 8:36pm
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Potentially of interest: this recent HB thread, in which a few senior members refuse to turn up their noses at Nespresso. I hear from others that their latest limited edition capsule, Crealto, is among the best Nespresso have put out to date.
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Posted Sat Sep 22, 2012, 1:42am
Subject: Re: Nespresso, surprising experience
 

I guess a Nespresso capsule is about as fresh as you can get with pre-ground coffee. And yes, it tastes better than stale drip coffee or coffee pad systems like Senseo. But it's still only an approximation of espresso, usually week bodied and with a fake crema.

 
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Posted Sat Sep 22, 2012, 6:27am
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I read a little bit on the Nepresso website; not quite sure where the marketing ends and the facts begin.

Do you have any insight as to whether the aluminum nespresso pod is retaining high pressure in order to closely approximate a shot of espresso?
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Posted Sat Sep 22, 2012, 11:15pm
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Well, like many manufacturers they advertise theoretical maximum pump pressure which is totally irrelevant. But even if they reach an extraction pressure of around 9 bar, the dosis of coffee in a Nespresso capsule is still too low to qualify for espresso, to be specific 5 g per capsule, and the volume of a Nespresso cup of so called espresso is too high, 40 ml that is. You'd need a Nespresso ristretto, which is 25 ml, to even come close.

 
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Posted Sun Sep 23, 2012, 1:35pm
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Oh noes, the espresso polizia have arrived! ;) Solution: stop the flow early, pull the cup early, or reprogram your machine's volume setting(s).
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Posted Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:49pm
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jbviau Said:

... stop the flow early, pull the cup early, or reprogram your machine's volume setting(s).

Posted September 23, 2012 link

La Polizia di Espresso Italiano says, that won't change the amount of coffee contained in a Nespresso capsule, so the brew ratio will still be wrong. ;->

 
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Posted Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:00am
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No, I'm saying you can adjust the ratio so that it would be more "correct" by the standards you often discuss; assuming what you've posted in the past is still "law" (7 g. of coffee for 25 ml, approximately), just under 18 ml. would become a Nespresso user's target if she were trying to serve you something that wouldn't offend your sense of propriety.
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Posted Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:22am
Subject: Re: Nespresso, surprising experience
 

EspressoLuv Said:

I read a little bit on the Nepresso website; not quite sure where the marketing ends and the facts begin.

Posted September 22, 2012 link

Well, who knows for sure? :)
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