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gilrain
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Joined: 9 Aug 2008
Posts: 10
Location: Murray, KY
Expertise: I like coffee

Grinder: Baratza Encore
Vac Pot: Yama Stovetop
Drip: Behmor Brazen
Roaster: Whirly-Pop

Posted Mon Nov 19, 2012, 12:36pm Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)

Well, I haven't actually made a pot where the bloom hasn't touched the shower head, requiring it be cleaned after each brew. However, since adopting the warm pre-soak, the bloom hasn't actually overflowed out of the basket, which is good. I'm hoping that after tweaking the pre-soak a little more, I can also avoid the bloom dirtying the shower head each time. It hasn't been as easy as I expected, but you're right to point out that this is actually my first auto-drip experience. I realize it's not exactly fair to compare the Brazen with a highly manual process like a vac pot! Joe: thanks for the advice. However, the issue isn't the volume of liquid overflowing, it's only the bloom itself. If you get a chance, do look over infinus' technique on page 57. It's worked a charm for me, even with a relatively fine grind, and it may be worth putting in the tips section of your website. By the way, Murray is in the far western corner of KY. Amusingly, I am actually originally from San Diego. Always nice to support a local innovator!

yakster
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Joined: 25 Feb 2009
Posts: 1,006
Location: San Jose, CA
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: Gaggia Factory / La Peppina...
Grinder: Vario / Kyocera
Vac Pot: Yama 8 + Pyrex Lox-in Rod
Drip: Brazen / Kalita / Chemex /...
Roaster: Behmor

Posted Mon Nov 19, 2012, 12:38pm Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)

Brewing 900 ml pots, I haven't run into a bloom issue with the Brazen, but this weekend I ran into a bloom issue with my vac pot and had to fall back on the Brazen for morning coffee. I blame the Brazen for this since I've gotten out of practice with using my siphon on the weekends. I also recently upped my brew temp from 204°F to 205°F which resulted in a sweeter brew with the Chromatic Coffee El Salvador La Joya Tonita I've been brewing lately. (Click for larger image)

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infinus
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Joined: 20 Jan 2012
Posts: 73
Location: Indiana, USA
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Cheap POS
Grinder: Baratza Preciso
Vac Pot: Broken by the cats!
Drip: Brazen, Technivorm
Roaster: Behmor 1600

Posted Mon Nov 19, 2012, 7:19pm Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)

Gilrain, Glad that technique is working for you. I've stepped up to 10-12 seconds of water released at about 130 for my presoak. It's been working pretty well for me. I think the ideal solution is to increase the height of the brew chamber. While the current implementation is good for most, I think home roasters will eventually have a bloom that hits the shower head. I suspect that based on elevation and water chemistry that it's worse for some than others. My most recent coffee is a Kenyan that hits the shower head unitl I hit 4 days post roast. If the height of the basket isn't increased I hope Joe can integrate this lower temp technique into the programming. If you want to conduct an expirement or two and observe your bloom you can pull the rubber plug out of the bottom of the bree basket. Then set the brew basket right on top of the brew pot (without the lid on the pot). It'll sit nice and level under the shower head and give you not onlu extra space to the shower head but also let you see what's going on. It's interesting to do a pot or two this way just to help dial in a technique.

BeauGoldly
Senior Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2012
Posts: 1
Location: Telluride
Expertise: I love coffee

Grinder: Mr. Coffee
Vac Pot: Yama Coffee Siphon
Drip: Behmor Brazen
Roaster: 1400 Watt Corn Popper Mod

Posted Mon Nov 19, 2012, 7:32pm Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)

I've read through the previous posts, but have never seen an answer: how many runs of joe does it take to get rid of the horrid plastic smell it imparts to my coffee? I've rinsed, washed, dried, etc. numerous times. That awful smell is still there. It works flawlessly. Just tastes flawed. Suggestions...? Thanks!

cafedj
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Joined: 3 Oct 2003
Posts: 635
Location: NC
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Bialetti, Aeropress
Grinder: Rocky doserless
Vac Pot: Bodum
Drip: Behmor Brazen
Roaster: Counter Culture

Posted Mon Nov 19, 2012, 8:45pm
Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)

BeauGoldly Said:

I've read through the previous posts, but have never seen an answer: how many runs of joe does it take to get rid of the horrid plastic smell it imparts to my coffee? I've rinsed, washed, dried, etc. numerous times. That awful smell is still there.

It works flawlessly. Just tastes flawed.

Suggestions...?

Thanks!

Posted November 19, 2012 link

You don't say how long you've had the Brazen. I ran about 5 full pots of water and one pot of coffee through mine on the first day and was still getting the very strong plastic smell and taste. So I washed all the removable plastic parts in hot soapy water and let them air dry overnight. The next morning I made a pot of coffee and there was absolutely no plastic smell or taste. I've used it daily for over 2 weeks and have tasted nothing but coffee after day one.

CaptainJack
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Joined: 11 Aug 2009
Posts: 2
Location: Roseburg
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Espressione Cafe Retro
Grinder: Baratza Virtuoso
Vac Pot: Aero Press
Drip: Capresso MT600
Roaster: Behmor 1600

Posted Sun Nov 25, 2012, 7:27pm Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)

Not sure if this has been answered yet, but I'm curious if anyone has found a paper filiter that fits properly in the Brazen? I havn't got mine yet(christmas gift), but wanted to get the filiters lined up. The Melitta Basket Filiter sounds like it will fit, but was curious if anyone has tried one yet. Thanks for any info, Jack

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The_Coffee_Guy
Senior Member

Joined: 5 Jan 2009
Posts: 105
Location: Toronto
Expertise: I live coffee

Grinder: Baratza Encore
Drip: Behmor BraZen Brew System,...

Posted Sun Nov 25, 2012, 7:35pm Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)

Costco ones are perfect

Posted Sun Nov 25, 2012, 8:14pm
Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)

CaptainJack Said:

Not sure if this has been answered yet, but I'm curious if anyone has found a paper filiter
that fits properly in the Brazen?
I havn't got mine yet(christmas gift), but wanted to get the filiters lined up. The Melitta Basket
Filiter sounds like it will fit, but was curious if anyone has tried one yet.
Thanks for any info,
Jack

Posted November 25, 2012 link

I'm using the standard Melitta 8-12 cup basket filters in my Brazen and they fit perfectly.

CaptainJack
Senior Member

Posted Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:50am Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)

cafedj Said: I'm using the standard Melitta 8-12 cup basket filters in my Brazen and they fit perfectly. Posted November 25, 2012 link Thanks cafedj, those are the ones I thought would work, but was hoping someone had tried them to make sure.

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CraigA
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Joined: 19 Dec 2001
Posts: 11,035
Location: Rexdale, Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: PID/PressureMod 2001...
Grinder: BUNN FPG-2 DBC, Baratza...
Vac Pot: Bodum Santos manual, Yama 5...
Drip: Behmor BraZen, BUNN VPR-APS,...
Roaster: Refurb Behmor 1600, BBQ...

Posted Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:37am Subject: Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)

Hi Jack, I tried them & said they worked also., but there's so many posts here it gets tiresome or hard to find stuff.. Here: "Re: Now we know what GORT is (Behmor BraZen Brewer)" Actually I didn't say anything about them. If they didn't work though, I would of posted that.

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