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CraigA
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Posted Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:05am
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Perked Said:

I see brazen recommended a lot - it looks like its not bad for the budget. Is this a good one to go with (maker)?

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In one word & trust me on this, YES!!

Please read this: http://www.frcndigital.com/coffee/brazen.html

 
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Posted Sat Oct 13, 2012, 3:06pm
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Perked Said:

I see brazen recommended a lot - it looks like its not bad for the budget. Is this a good one to go with (maker)?

Posted October 13, 2012 link

On loan to my father-in-law, the Brazen takes his preground Maxwell House coffee and produces a decent cup.  

I do roast some coffee for him now and again.  Then the Brazen really shines.

 
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Posted Sun Oct 14, 2012, 7:49am
Subject: Re: Looking to get schooled on the art and science of great coffee
 

'Looking to get schooled ....'
You don't have to start out roasting, but if you want to learn about coffee you need to read the bible:
"Home Coffee Roasting" by Kenneth Davids
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Posted Sun Oct 21, 2012, 8:45pm
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Alright you asked for it.

Start off with fresh coffee.  Find a snooty local coffee shop or local roaster and get some fresh roasted beans from all different origins.  If you cant find it localy I am sure you can find an online retailer (equator coffee is great) that ships fresh roasted coffee.  There is a crazy huge variance in coffee flavors once you get into good single origin beans that are roasted to bring out there flavors.  As a rule, roasted whole coffee is good for 2 weeks.

Next, making coffee all comes down to extraction, and to do that you need to grind the beans evenly otherwise the dust gets over extracted and and the big pieces get under extracted.  You need a burr grinder and unfortunately that takes you over your price limit and there's nothing you can really do about it.  The good news is you can get a refirb baratza grinder from their site for under 100 that should serve you well for a very long time as long as you don't ever want to get crazy about making great esspresso. (You need a little more expensive grinder to get it as fine as you need for espresso).  Grind it right before you brew it, a general rule is ground coffee lasts 2 house

Brew it, once again it comes down to extraction if you extract coffee too much it taste bitter, if not extracted enough it can taste sour.  My recomendation is the clever coffee dripper, get the large for like 22 bucks.  It is simple to use, no fancy kettles to buy for pouring slowly and evenly, and doesn't require much technique, which means the results are very repeatable.  I actualy dont have one as i use a beehouse pour over that I love but I spent a fair amount of time learning how to get the extraction right.  I have used one and I have given the clever as gifts.  With the clever if its bitter grind it coarser or brew it faster, if its sour grind it finer or brew it longer, thats really it. There really is no down side to this device.  The other brewing device that is pretty simple and cheap is a french press, i started out with one of these but i don't realy love the coffee it makes anymore, I (and a lot of other people) prefer the cleaner cup the filter gives you when drinking better aromatic coffees.

There you have it, i guess the next step is home roasting

Not going to go into that too much but i recomend a corretto roaster, you can look into that later.  As a rule green coffee can last 2 year.

You do need a scale eventualy but a slightly rounded table spoon is about 7 grams of medium and light roasted coffee, 6 grams of dark roast.
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Posted Mon Oct 22, 2012, 4:29pm
Subject: Re: Looking to get schooled on the art and science of great coffee
 

Wow! A lot of interesting information here!

Extraction method. Now this caught my attention as since I have one of those whirly thinga-ma-jigs still I will try to control the rate of the grind and not OVER grind it.

I am using 8'o clock whole bean right now and since I have never had truly freshly roasted, freshly ground coffee (I don't think so anyway), it is better than all the rest right now.

I dumped my kcup brewer and got a simple coffee maker from a big box store for now. One with 2 hour shut off and a brew strength (normal or strong). The stronger brew is simply a slower drip and that works for me - I like to get the most out of my coffee grinds - and that's where on my kcup brewer I feel I was falling short.

Anyway, this one also came with a water filter of sorts. It simply goes on top of the grinds cup and supposed to filter out chlorine in the water. Not really sure if it works.


VERY INTERESTING about the final cost per pound on the kcups. I'll have to let me wife know that one... and we may finally just sell our kcup brewer. We had planned on keeping it around for convenience and those early morning too-much-in-a-rush-to-grind-your-own-coffee mornings :D
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Posted Tue Oct 23, 2012, 10:06pm
Subject: Re: Looking to get schooled on the art and science of great coffee
 

My 2 cents.....

When I stepped-up, I went with a Bonavita 1800th and I have not looked back.  I was a Great Buy for the money that I spent and I have been enjoying it for over a year now.  While grinding beans at home is great and you really do get the most out of your beans it does have it's drawbacks.  For example, if your significant other is a light sleeper and gets up a few hours after you, grinding your beans in the morning can create a 'situation.'

It all comes down to personal preference and how far up the coffee plant you want to go.


Go to a local coffee house and do your trials there.  Brew, Pour Over, Press, Turkish, you taste and then you decide.  

For me I just like the taste of drip coffee over anything else.  

Good luck and have fun, but most important of all remember,


it is not an addiction......it is a hobby.
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Location: Riverside, Ca, U.S.A.
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Posted Wed Oct 24, 2012, 6:53am
Subject: Re: Looking to get schooled on the art and science of great coffee
 

Congrats on wanting to "up your game"!
The first bigger purchase is to dump that blade "grinder", there really is no way to keep from making dust to boulders with it due to the way it works, that is just life.

Your first FIRST purchase should be fresh coffee from an Artisan roaster, you will be AMAZED at the difference EVEN with that bean crusher you have now!

 
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Wayne P.
Anything I post is personal opinion and is only worth as much as anyone else's personal opinion. YMMV!

Feed the newbs, starve the trolls and above all enjoy what you drink!
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Perked
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Posted Tue Oct 30, 2012, 4:13pm
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Ok, so here are my steps:

1) start getting fresh roasted beans from a local producer (this one guy quotes $11, but does not say for what - is this per pound? Is this a bad price? He roasts to order :)

2) upgrade my coffee grinder. already have a few in mind at amazon. Burr grinder. Cheap enough. $20-$50 range. Don't want to mention the specific brand.

3) upgrade my coffee maker. Looks like brazen is the way to go. Will take some time in talking my wife into going into the $200+ range for coffee maker. Perhaps I can justify the cost from selling our kcup brewer :D
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