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Posted Wed Dec 5, 2012, 2:24pm
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roach56 Said:

That espro looks interesting. I started with a moka pot (still have it) and never could get a good cup from it,not sure if I ground too fine or what but I always got a cup that tasted burnt or had a metal taste.

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Yes, you have to keep the applied heat low & the moment it starts to come out of the spout I've heard that you should then take it off of the heat to finish/carry through without burning/getting too hot that way.

I may just give the aero press a try since the brew time is short, it'll stay hotter.

Yep, it all depends of the coffee finess/coarseness that'll determine the proper extraction time (to YOUR taste).

Never tried a vacuum but have heard they are very good.

Yes & I love the vac brewed coffee too!

Pictured below is the larger size 40 oz 2 piece filter assembly on the left & the smaller size 10 oz assembly on the right.

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Posted Wed Dec 5, 2012, 4:27pm
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I've been reading feedback on the aero press and some of the negatives are the amount of grounds to water it requires. What ratio are most of you guys using and water temps.
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Posted Thu Dec 6, 2012, 6:39am
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Hi Mike,
It really boils down (pun intended! ;)) to the strength of the cup that you prefer for your own taste.

I don't brew anywhere near the recommended two 14 gram scoop (they show/say a drip grind) provided & suggested in the Aeropress instructions for a specified 10 oz mug. I don't even brew with one scoop, I like 11 or 12 grams for my happens to be 10 oz mug & I use 180 - 185F strike/brew temp water in two additions.

 
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Posted Thu Dec 6, 2012, 12:17pm
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roach56 Said:

I always prewarm my cup and have been warming my cream also.

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You can prewarm the Aeropress too. Or put your cup of coffee in the microwave for a few seconds.

This morning I plopped a thermometer into my freshly brewed cup (which probably cooled it ia bit) and it registered 72C.
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Posted Thu Dec 6, 2012, 12:26pm
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roach56 Said:

I've been reading feedback on the aero press and some of the negatives are the amount of grounds to water it requires. What ratio are most of you guys using and water temps.

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It's true in general that immersion brewing requires more coffee for a given strength than drip coffee since good coffee is trapped in the grounds. This effect is exacerbated as the strength goes up (more grounds and stronger trapped coffee). So in that sense the Aeropress, with it's small volume, isn't the most efficient brewer, especially if you brew strong with the intention to dilute afterwards to a lower strength.
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Posted Thu Dec 6, 2012, 3:00pm
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roach56 Said:

I drink one to two small 5-6 oz. cups in the morning. Been doing pour overs for last couple years. Once in a while I'll make americanos with my lever. I like my coffee hot as I use half&half in it. I have a cheap bonjour FP but my coffee is not hot enough after 4 minute extraction. I was looking at the aero press but since it's non insulated, think I may have the same problem. Any suggestions?

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Quite simply, you do not do 4 minute wait times till extraction with the aeropress.  You simply put in the just off boil water and stir briskly for 30 seconds then extract.  That is how I do it, and I believe that my 30 seconds are longer than the manufacturers suggested stir time.

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Posted Thu Dec 6, 2012, 3:38pm
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Here's the Aerobie Aeropress brewing instructions:

1  Put two AeroPress scoops of fine-drip grind coffee into the chamber.

2  Pour hot water slowly into the chamber up to the number 2.
   Use 175F (80C)  water for the very best taste.

3  Mix the water and coffee with the stirrer for about 10 seconds.

4  Wet the rubber seal and insert the plunger into the chamber.
   Gently press down about a quarter of an inch and maintain that pressure for about 20 to 30 seconds until the plunger bottoms on the coffee.
   Gentle pressure is the key to easy AeroPressing.


Here's the brewing instructions for the Able Brewing Equipment Inc Regular disk:       Here's the brewing instructions for the Able Brewing Equipment Inc Fine disk:

1  Put in 18g of fresh coffee (medium grind).                                                                 1  In inverted position, put in 22g of fresh coffee (medium-fine grind).

2  Pour in 220ml of 200F water slowly for 30 seconds.                                                   2  Pour in 100ml of 200F water. Stir 3-4 times.

3  Wait 50 seconds.                                                                                                 3  Pour 100ml of water. Steep for  1.00 minute.

4  Stir gently for 10 seconds.                                                                                     4  Lock filter cap w/disk fine on press.

5  Plunge slowly for 40 seconds & enjoy your coffee.                                                      5  Flip the press onto mug.Press for 15 seconds. Stopping when you hear the "hiss".

                                                                                                                            6  Add 3-4 oz of water post brew into your mug. (Adjust to taste).



Here's the brewing instructions for the Kaffeologie S disk:

1  Insert S filter mesh side up.

2  Add coffee Drip Grind 2 Tbsp (12g).

3  Add hot water. 200F/94C. Fill Aeropress (200g).

4  Brew & enjoy. Stir twice. Press at 3.00 minutes.

 
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Posted Thu Dec 6, 2012, 3:53pm
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I haven't brewed with a French press but maybe somebody here can answer this: Do the solids that you typically get with a French press make the coffee seem stronger than a cup of coffee of the same strength that is filtered through paper? I certainly notice a difference when switching between Aeropress (paper filters) and moka coffee (noticable solids). The Aeropress coffee is both cleaner and yet somehow less satisfying. I think it's one (of several) reasons why I use more coffee in an Aeropress than in a moka pot.

I wonder if French press is similar in this regard. And if so, would someone who is accustomed to that be inclined to updose in an Aeropress?
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