Our Valued Sponsor
OpinionsConsumer ReviewsGuides and How TosCoffeeGeek ReviewsResourcesForums
Coffee: Machines and Brewing Methods
Recommend a Simple/Quality Automatic
Coffee Kids
Help folks who help folks in coffee producing nations.
coffeekids.org
 
Not Logged in: Log In to Postlog in
New Topics updated topics   New Posts new posts   Unanswered Posts new unanswered  
Search Discussion Board search   Discussion Board FAQ faq   Signup sign up  
Discussions > Coffee > Machines > Recommend a...  
view previous topic | view next topic | view all topics
showing page 1 of 2 last page next page
Author Messages
Triglet
Senior Member


Joined: 6 Apr 2011
Posts: 5
Location: Tulsa
Expertise: I love coffee

Grinder: Baratza Virtuoso
Posted Tue Jan 15, 2013, 7:48am
Subject: Recommend a Simple/Quality Automatic
 

Hello all, I've been through some of the owner threads on the various models -- great stuff but it's hard to sift out info through 80 pages.  Apologies if this has been asked and answered, it's quite possible I missed a thread while browsing.

I've got a Chemex, Aeropress, and a french press -- primarily use the french pot for day to day coffee.  However, the wife wants an automatic for ease of use as well as capacity.  Looks like the Brazen, Technivorm, & Bonavita get pretty good reviews here.

I want something I can just set and forget, and great build quality that will last me a good long while.  The Brazen's adjustability sounds great, but to be honest I don't see myself playing with it like some would.  I'd probably dial it in and that'd be the end of it.  The Bonavita's price is right, but the construction quality/carafe issues give me pause.  I don't know much about the Technivorm save that it's the most expensive -- is it worth the price?

Appreciate any help!
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
PhillyRick
Senior Member


Joined: 17 Dec 2012
Posts: 30
Location: Philadelphia
Posted Tue Jan 15, 2013, 8:22am
Subject: Re: Recommend a Simple/Quality Automatic
 

Cheap... automatic... durable/reliable.  Choose any two.

From my reading and the recent experiences of friends and relatives, the life expectancy of modern auto-drip coffeemakers is measured in months; except for the Technivorm.  I'm happy with our 2-year-old Cuisinart DCC-1200 (modified; see my consumer review), but others have had their copies spring leaks, burn up, or electronically die at younger ages.

Good luck,

Rick
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
VKirby
Senior Member


Joined: 16 Mar 2012
Posts: 99
Location: World Wide
Expertise: I like coffee

Posted Tue Jan 15, 2013, 9:31am
Subject: Re: Recommend a Simple/Quality Automatic
 

Triglet Said:

Hello all, I've been through some of the owner threads on the various models -- great stuff but it's hard to sift out info through 80 pages.  Apologies if this has been asked and answered, it's quite possible I missed a thread while browsing.

I've got a Chemex, Aeropress, and a french press -- primarily use the french pot for day to day coffee.  However, the wife wants an automatic for ease of use as well as capacity.  Looks like the Brazen, Technivorm, & Bonavita get pretty good reviews here.

I want something I can just set and forget, and great build quality that will last me a good long while.  The Brazen's adjustability sounds great, but to be honest I don't see myself playing with it like some would.  I'd probably dial it in and that'd be the end of it.  The Bonavita's price is right, but the construction quality/carafe issues give me pause.  I don't know much about the Technivorm save that it's the most expensive -- is it worth the price?

Appreciate any help!

Posted January 15, 2013 link


Sifting.  Yeah you read so many reviews, recommendations, complaints, but then there's kind of an army of supporters for them who shout down any & all reported problems as being solely due to user error lol.

I think the bonavita is the best value for the money, but per YOUR criteria it's pretty obvious which one maximizes SIMPLICITY x QUALITY, if you're willing to splurge.  Because price is the only downside of the technivorm, & it's the simplest & highest quality.  THe brazen's main selling points are features you're saying you're not interested in.  I'd still go bonavita despite being 2nd to the T.v. in terms of build quality, its copper vs. Al heating element, >2x longer warranty etc. but it's an easy choice for you assuming you know you won't want the adjustability of the brazen in the future?  & quality matters to you more than price.  GOod luck!
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
calblacksmith
Moderator
calblacksmith
Joined: 25 Nov 2007
Posts: 7,848
Location: Riverside, Ca, U.S.A.
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32
Grinder: Azkoyen Capriccio, Major
Vac Pot: 40s era Silex
Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Tue Jan 15, 2013, 10:01am
Subject: Re: Recommend a Simple/Quality Automatic
 

Don't forget the commercial makers. Bunn makes a good brewer, no I am not talking about the home units.
The VPR series is an affordable quality unit. It can be bought in either the APS style which brews straight into an air pot or the normal pot o coffee hat everyone knows and some love.

It is right about $200 either online or from Sams club.

 
In real life, my name is
Wayne P.
Anything I post is personal opinion and is only worth as much as anyone else's personal opinion. YMMV!

Feed the newbs, starve the trolls and above all enjoy what you drink!
back to top
 View Profile Visit website Link to this post
dyqik
Senior Member


Joined: 7 Oct 2011
Posts: 383
Location: Cambridge, MA
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Bezzera BZ07 PM
Grinder: Baratza Virtuoso Preciso...
Vac Pot: Cona D
Drip: Bona-Vita, CCD, Aeropress.
Roaster: Gene Cafe, Modded Poppers
Posted Tue Jan 15, 2013, 10:18am
Subject: Re: Recommend a Simple/Quality Automatic
 

The Bonavita is pretty simple and fire and forget.  Although some have reported the issues with the thermal carafe, I haven't seen anything like that with mine - I don't know what the incidence rate is (self-reporting on forums is inherently biased towards reporting problems, and I suspect that a single bad batch of carafes could be at fault here).  The good thing in mitigation of that potential problem is that the machine will take any carafe or mug that fits with a filter cone under the shower head - there's no interlocks or anything.  It'll even supply water for a Chemex if yours is the size that fits underneath.
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
VKirby
Senior Member


Joined: 16 Mar 2012
Posts: 99
Location: World Wide
Expertise: I like coffee

Posted Tue Jan 15, 2013, 10:26am
Subject: Re: Recommend a Simple/Quality Automatic
 

calblacksmith Said:

Don't forget the commercial makers. Bunn makes a good brewer, no I am not talking about the home units.
The VPR series is an affordable quality unit. It can be bought in either the APS style which brews straight into an air pot or the normal pot o coffee hat everyone knows and some love.

It is right about $200 either online or from Sams club.

Posted January 15, 2013 link

hey do you mind linking the model you're talking about at samsclub?
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
Rob989_69
Senior Member


Joined: 19 Dec 2012
Posts: 42
Location: Rochester
Expertise: Just starting

Posted Tue Jan 15, 2013, 10:28am
Subject: Re: Recommend a Simple/Quality Automatic
 

calblacksmith Said:

Don't forget the commercial makers. Bunn makes a good brewer, no I am not talking about the home units.
The VPR series is an affordable quality unit. It can be bought in either the APS style which brews straight into an air pot or the normal pot o coffee hat everyone knows and some love.

It is right about $200 either online or from Sams club.

Posted January 15, 2013 link

I second that. I picked up a CWTF15 off of Craigslist for $80. You cannot beat the build quality. You can easily control how much coffee you make. They brew at the proper temperatures. However, one thing to keep in mind. It's a commercial machine, which means it's functional, built like a tank, and (some will argue but in my opinion) are ugly as sin. They do no compliment most peoples kitchens like a TV or Brazen. I would have gone for the Brazen but I needed 12 cup capacity. I also have the Cuisinart DCC 1200 and it's a nice machine. I'm going to try the mod mentioned above to see if that bumps up the brew temps..

I have had coffee from the consumer grade bunns, I can tell you first hand, it's just as good as the commercial units. They're generally cheaper. But, like the commercial units, they aren't pretty, and unlike the commercial units, they're pretty much all plastic.
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
CraigA
Moderator
CraigA
Joined: 19 Dec 2001
Posts: 11,254
Location: Rexdale, Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: PID/PressureMod 2001...
Grinder: BUNN FPG-2 DBC, Baratza...
Vac Pot: Bodum Santos manual, Yama 5...
Drip: Behmor BraZen, BUNN VPR-APS,...
Roaster: Refurb Behmor 1600, BBQ...
Posted Tue Jan 15, 2013, 10:33am
Subject: Re: Recommend a Simple/Quality Automatic
 

VKirby Said:

hey do you mind linking the model you're talking about at samsclub?

Posted January 15, 2013 link

They used to be $199.95 at Costco a few years ago, but the pricesa went up. Sams Club Bunns ($237.62 pourover carafe), Costco pourover carafe $239.99

Rob989_69 Said:

I have had coffee from the consumer grade bunns, I can tell you first hand, it's just as good as the commercial units. They're generally cheaper. But, like the commercial units, they aren't pretty, and unlike the commercial units, they're pretty much all plastic.

Non adjustable for brew temperature too, they brew at a fixed 200F.

 
http://twitter.com/CoffeegeekCraig
http://www.facebook.com/craig.andrews.169

Excellent coffee doesn't just happen!
back to top
 View Profile Visit website Contact via AOL Instant Messenger Contact via ICQ Contact via MSN Messenger Link to this post
EricBNC
Senior Member
EricBNC
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
Posts: 1,869
Location: North Carolina
Expertise: Just starting

Espresso: QM Silvano, LP Stradivarius,...
Grinder: K30, Major, Preciso, Pharos,...
Vac Pot: Sunbeam C30, Bodum Santos...
Drip: Bonavita BV-1800,...
Roaster: Behmor, Melitta, Fresh...
Posted Wed Jan 16, 2013, 12:24am
Subject: Re: Recommend a Simple/Quality Automatic
 

Although I have a comparable commercial pour over (Wilbur Curtis Alpha - used for $15 at Goodwill), I have a hard time recommending them. The internal tank is large, which means energy efficiency in a low volume setting is poor. It makes a hot and fast 64 fl oz pot, but I rarely drink or want that much coffee at one time - the OP might though.

The Bonavita makes a great cup and is simple to use (glass carafe here) and the Technivorm is as well (8 cup glass carafe version here) - both are better suited in small volume environments (1 - 4 coffee drinkers) and both will make a full pot in 5 - 6 minutes. These are cone filter style machines. I your preference runs toward a basket filter style machine then the residential use Bunn coffee makers will do a great job. Mine is the same version I saw at Walmart for under $100 (bought used - forgot the price) and  I prefer it to my commercial machine because it makes a similar tasting cup but is more efficient for my volume of consumption.

 
I chew coffee beans with my teeth while gargling with 195 F water to enjoy coffee. What is this "coffee brewing" device you speak of?
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
calblacksmith
Moderator
calblacksmith
Joined: 25 Nov 2007
Posts: 7,848
Location: Riverside, Ca, U.S.A.
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32
Grinder: Azkoyen Capriccio, Major
Vac Pot: 40s era Silex
Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Wed Jan 16, 2013, 7:22am
Subject: Re: Recommend a Simple/Quality Automatic
 

I guess online the price is higher, the shelf price at my local club is still $199 but stores can set their own price and not all stores are the same.

 
In real life, my name is
Wayne P.
Anything I post is personal opinion and is only worth as much as anyone else's personal opinion. YMMV!

Feed the newbs, starve the trolls and above all enjoy what you drink!
back to top
 View Profile Visit website Link to this post
showing page 1 of 2 last page next page
view previous topic | view next topic | view all topics
Discussions > Coffee > Machines > Recommend a...  
New Topics updated topics   New Posts new posts   Unanswered Posts new unanswered     Search Discussion Board search   Discussion Board FAQ faq   Signup sign up  
Not Logged in: Log In to Postlog in
Discussions Quick Jump:
Symbols: New Posts= New Posts since your last visit      No New Posts= No New Posts since last visit     Go to most recent post= Newest post
Forum Rules:
No profanity, illegal acts or personal attacks will be tolerated in these discussion boards.
No commercial posting of any nature will be tolerated; only private sales by private individuals, in the "Buy and Sell" forum.
No SEO style postings will be tolerated. SEO related posts will result in immediate ban from CoffeeGeek.
No cross posting allowed - do not post your topic to more than one forum, nor repost a topic to the same forum.
Who Can Read The Forum? Anyone can read posts in these discussion boards.
Who Can Post New Topics? Any registered CoffeeGeek member can post new topics.
Who Can Post Replies? Any registered CoffeeGeek member can post replies.
Can Photos be posted? Anyone can post photos in their new topics or replies.
Who can change or delete posts? Any CoffeeGeek member can edit their own posts. Only moderators can delete posts.
Probationary Period: If you are a new signup for CoffeeGeek, you cannot promote, endorse, criticise or otherwise post an unsolicited endorsement for any company, product or service in your first five postings.
Cafe Espresso Machines
Video reviews, nationwide installation, leasing options... Nuova Simonelli, Rancilio, La Marzocco.
www.seattlecoffeegear.com
Home | Opinions | Consumer Reviews | Guides & How Tos | CoffeeGeek Reviews | Resources | Forums | Contact Us
CoffeeGeek.com, CoffeeGeek, and Coffee Geek, along with all associated content & images are copyright ©2000-2014 by Mark Prince, all rights reserved, unless otherwise indicated. Content, code, and images may not be reused without permission. Usage of this website signifies agreement with our Terms and Conditions. (0.335606813431)
Privacy Policy | Copyright Info | Terms and Conditions | CoffeeGeek Advertisers | RSS | Find us on Google+