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Pjones
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Posted Fri May 17, 2013, 1:43am
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Hey guys, I just bought a Krups type 987 white espresso coffee combo machine. I cannot find any info on it anywhere. I actually came across a post on eBay for a white boiler lid off the type 987 with the poster saying it is very rare. Just how old is this machine? I am very curious now
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Posted Fri May 17, 2013, 6:00am
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Welcome,

Sometimes things are rare because they were very expensive and few could afford them. Other times, they are rare because they were not very good and no one bought them so they were discontinued.

I am afraid that yours is the latter.

The device is a combo unit, brewed coffee and espresso. It is not good at either and in the espresso department, it is a "steam toy". This is the term we use for the lowest of the low espresso "machines" that use only the pressure of the water in the boiler to force the water through the coffee. The pressure is way too low and the temp is too hot, giving you poor quality in the cup.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but if you have an interest in espresso, please hang around and participate in the discussions. We can get you into good espresso without the bumps in the road that you will have doing this on your own.

 
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Posted Fri May 17, 2013, 6:57am
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Pjones
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Posted Fri May 17, 2013, 8:19am
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Eh I figured as much, only paid $8 for it so no big loss and the coffee taste is ok, have not tired the espresso in it yet but I guess I got what I paid for lol
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calblacksmith
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Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32
Grinder: Azkoyen Capriccio, Major
Vac Pot: 40s era Silex
Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Fri May 17, 2013, 9:43am
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Netphilosopher Said:

Does this mean the Moka Pot Stovetop Espresso Maker is also classified as a steam toy?  ;-)

Welcome Pjones!

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Uh, no, it is a Moka pot, a different creature entirely but then you knew it :D ;P

 
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Posted Fri May 17, 2013, 9:51am
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Interesting thing; the mocha pot IS the manual steam toy... but, that IS the reason it's different. Automation is not always the best of all worlds. (There  should be some kind of parable in that somewhere...)
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Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32
Grinder: Azkoyen Capriccio, Major
Vac Pot: 40s era Silex
Drip: Msl. Com. brewers
Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Fri May 17, 2013, 10:07am
Subject: Re: An old or rare coffee / espresso combo machine
 

It is the lack of a pump (manual or electric) that keeps it in a non espresso status, too low of a pressure but due to the way it is made, it at least, is not too hot, the water if forced through the grounds before it hits boiling temp.

 
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Posted Fri May 17, 2013, 3:36pm
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MerleApAmber Said:

Interesting thing; the mocha pot IS the manual steam toy... but, that IS the reason it's different. Automation is not always the best of all worlds. (There  should be some kind of parable in that somewhere...)

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