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Posted Thu Jun 20, 2013, 5:38am
Subject: Breville YouBrew v. Technivorm, BonaVita, or Behmor Brazen
 

This is an unfair comparison from the outset, and I realize that.  My question is: How does the Breville compare to the latter three for brewing coffee when ground in a stand alone burr grinder.  It may not be logical to buy a Grind and Brew when you plan on using a separate grinder, but I have my reasons for considering it.  Basically, the convenience for my wife, and the fact that I have to leave the house around 3:30 some mornings, and would appreciate every extra moment of sleep on those mornings (hence the convenience of being able to set the Grind and Brew and not having to pre-grind coffee).  I am leaning towards the Behmor at the moment, but still strongly considering the YouBrew for this reason.  So, basically I am asking for a comparison of the YouBrew to the other brewers based solely on its brewing, and not on its grinding.
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Posted Thu Jun 20, 2013, 8:39am
Subject: Re: Breville YouBrew v. Technivorm, BonaVita, or Behmor Brazen
 

Technivorm, Bonavita, and Brazen are considered to be the top drip makers, AFAIK, so that in itself should eliminate the YouBrew from consideration.  Also, as you know, the YouBrew with a built in grinder is a negative.  

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Posted Thu Jun 20, 2013, 8:50am
Subject: Re: Breville YouBrew v. Technivorm, BonaVita, or Behmor Brazen
 

Seattle Coffee Gear posted a video review comparing these models a while back:

http://youtu.be/kJ6sSQv2Id0

 
I chew coffee beans with my teeth while gargling with 195 F water to enjoy coffee. What is this "coffee brewing" device you speak of?
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Posted Thu Jun 20, 2013, 8:55am
Subject: Re: Breville YouBrew v. Technivorm, BonaVita, or Behmor Brazen
 

EricBNC Said:

Seattle Coffee Gear posted a video review comparing these models a while back:

http://youtu.be/kJ6sSQv2Id0

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Interesting video.  And Seattle Coffee Gear is where I purchased my Technivorm.  Very pleased with their service.

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Posted Thu Jun 20, 2013, 9:17am
Subject: Re: Breville YouBrew v. Technivorm, BonaVita, or Behmor Brazen
 

Youbrew is surprisngly very good and I've used a Techo before. The built in grinder issue isn't a deal breaker like some espresso machines or superautos (mainly b/c they grind crappy for espresso). Neighbors have a Youbrew.

I'd still go with pry a Bonavita Techno or Bunn, but if somebody needs an easy all in one that brews a great cup the Youbrew rocks.
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Posted Thu Jun 20, 2013, 9:20am
Subject: Re: Breville YouBrew v. Technivorm, BonaVita, or Behmor Brazen
 

I think the question you want an answer to is something like "is occasionally leaving the grounds out overnight in the Brazen or Bonavita* better or worse than the quality hit from using the YouBrew all the time?".  

Personally I think I'd rather have a good brewer for general use, and accept a bit of a hit on the occasional timer activated brew.  I don't find the hit from pre-ground to be too bad, at least not compared to a poor brew temperature, and I doubt I'd care that much at 3am.  But then I prefer to be able to hit the highs, while accepting the odd low, rather than to get a consistent middle ground.

  • The Bonavita will happily run on a cheap external timer if you want to preset it.
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Posted Thu Jun 20, 2013, 5:04pm
Subject: Re: Breville YouBrew v. Technivorm, BonaVita, or Behmor Brazen
 

dyqik Said:

I think the question you want an answer to is something like "is occasionally leaving the grounds out overnight in the Brazen or Bonavita* better or worse than the quality hit from using the YouBrew all the time?".  

Personally I think I'd rather have a good brewer for general use, and accept a bit of a hit on the occasional timer activated brew.  I don't find the hit from pre-ground to be too bad, at least not compared to a poor brew temperature, and I doubt I'd care that much at 3am.  But then I prefer to be able to hit the highs, while accepting the odd low, rather than to get a consistent middle ground.

The Bonavita will happily run on a cheap external timer if you want to preset it.

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Interesting question. This is exactly how I read the OP's post as well.

Before I got my Brazen, I too thought I wouldn't care that much about pre-ground coffee. With the low temperature of my previous brewer's water, the difference between stale coffee and freshly ground beans just wasn't overly perceptible - at least not bad enough that I cared. I figured that people who wouldn't dare brew coffee ground the night before simply had very discerning tastes. But when brewing at proper temperature, the difference is painfully clear. It's interesting how when brewing at the optimal temperature range, at least in my experience so far, has the effect of magnifying the good and bad aspects of the grounds you're brewing.

In my opinion, this is a question of trade offs. If I only drank coffee from an auto-drip machine early in the morning and craved convenience than I would imagine the YouBrew is the best choice. Whether it brews at the optimal temperature or not (speaking of which, does anyone have measurement for the average temperature the YouBrew brews?), I have a feeling that freshly ground beans would make the difference.
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Posted Fri Jun 21, 2013, 8:34am
Subject: Re: Breville YouBrew v. Technivorm, BonaVita, or Behmor Brazen
 

Netphilosopher Said:

I'd add the Bunn Phase Brew to the comparison list.

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I had the Bunn Phase Brew for about 2 days before it failed.  It has a high failure rate, well reported, which I chose to put aside to give it a chance.  All in all its a neat looking machine, with promise, but Bunn needs to get its electronics squared away.

After my experience I'd definitely not add that machine to the list.

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Posted Fri Jun 21, 2013, 7:51pm
Subject: Re: Breville YouBrew v. Technivorm, BonaVita, or Behmor Brazen
 

Perhaps I should clarify a bit.  Right now, I am a Chemex and press pot man.  But my life is about to get insane, so I will not always have the time for either of those options.  I am looking for a brewer to fill the gap when I don't have time.  But my primary brewing method will still be the Chemex/press pot.  I can spend 200+ on a brewer that I will only occasionally use for myself as a stop gap if I have to, but I would rather buy one that meets my needs while providing the convenience that my wife cares about.  If the breville brews a good enough cup, it has the potential to be that.  But I have to find a decent comparison of the YouBrew to the others.  Seattle Coffe Gear has made an attempt at it, but their methods were flawed.  For one thing, they used the inboard grinder for the YouBrew and a much better grinder for the others.  Then they used gold filters in the Brazen and YouBrew and paper in the others when the judge clearly preferred paper filters.
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