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Posted Fri Jul 5, 2013, 6:35pm
Subject: Brikka Explodes Coffee?
 

Simple as the title states. I purchased a Brikka. I purchased some pre-ground Italian Espresso. I wanted to see grind size. I swear I followed the directions to the T, twice. And twice I had coffee explosions. I attempted to use just water, and it seems to work ok, pushed about 1/2 the water into the top, then I stopped it.

Any advise? Don't want to clean up a third coffee mess. If I can get this working I use my own beans, but I am baffled about this one. It's like the pressure just builds, and then releases all at once, coffee everywhere except in the pot.

Chris
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Posted Fri Jul 5, 2013, 7:22pm
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BOTR Said:

Simple as the title states. I purchased a Brikka. I purchased some pre-ground Italian Espresso. I wanted to see grind size. I swear I followed the directions to the T, twice. And twice I had coffee explosions. I attempted to use just water, and it seems to work ok, pushed about 1/2 the water into the top, then I stopped it.

Any advise? Don't want to clean up a third coffee mess. If I can get this working I use my own beans, but I am baffled about this one. It's like the pressure just builds, and then releases all at once, coffee everywhere except in the pot.

Chris

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Did the pressure relief valve pop each time (I hope it is working otherwise dangerous)?  Did you tamp down grounds?  Did you tighten the top well against the bottom after making sure there were no grounds were on seals?

The above are important questions to address.  Never tamp down grounds in the brikka.  Always make sure there are no grounds on any surface to surface seal areas.  Always hand tighten real well (I have a brikka and even rub a bit of water into rubber seals prior to tightening).  When heating I have stove on high (electric) however once it pops I immediately turn off and let it ride out until the first hint of steams comes through top.

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Posted Fri Jul 5, 2013, 8:09pm
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It's not the relief valve on the side that goes. It seems like all the water in the base is forced through the grounds all at once. It all comes out of the top with such force that it sprays everywhere. Like wiping floors 4 feet from the stove! Grounds were NOT tamped. No leakage from the seal between the top and bottom. Weird.
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Posted Fri Jul 5, 2013, 9:16pm
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BOTR Said:

It's not the relief valve on the side that goes. It seems like all the water in the base is forced through the grounds all at once. It all comes out of the top with such force that it sprays everywhere. Like wiping floors 4 feet from the stove! Grounds were NOT tamped. No leakage from the seal between the top and bottom. Weird.

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Oh.  I was under the impression that there was a pressure retention issue and the brikka forced the pressurized water through a possibly bit to loose seal.  It is actually the other way around.  It appears that your grind is a bit too coarse and heat a bit too high.  I would turn the heat down to 1/2 and work up from there.  If already 1/2, even lower.

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Posted Sat Jul 6, 2013, 7:35am
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Thanks for the advise.

I used my beans today, and ground finer, lowered the heat. I did end up with a successful brew, but I had to kinda shake the Brikka to get the coffee to come up the through the pipe, took about 9 minutes. I then tried another batch with just a touch more heat. And bam coffee everywhere.
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Posted Sat Jul 6, 2013, 7:55am
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I find my most successful brews are when I grind fine (very fine drip setting on my Breville Smart Grinder).  I put the Brikka Grinds basket under the shute of my Breville and as it fills up with grinds I tap it a bit until I feel that when finished the grinds will be a bit under the top of the basket. I then take the basket from my breville and smooth out the top and tap it a couple more times.  Then I go ahead and do the brew.

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Posted Sat Jul 6, 2013, 12:14pm
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I think I have to put it away for awhile. Just cant get it to function correctly. I let it sit for about 10 minutes over the flame this last time, and only when I spun the weighted thing on top did coffee come out. And by then the top was so hot that a lot of it burned off immediately. I'm so confused with this. Low heat, I get no coffee, maybe a burp or 2. As soon as I turn it up it blasts out with such force, that 90% of it is spread all over my kitchen. I think the most surprising thing it that I cant seem to find alot of info on this happening to people. It must be something I am doing, putting it away until next weekend, maybe I can try to brew a few outside then.

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Posted Sat Jul 6, 2013, 12:42pm
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After watching several YouTube videos, I am convinced something is wrong. The coffee never comes smoothly out of the top "valve". Maybe there is something mechanically wrong with my unit.
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Posted Sat Jul 6, 2013, 1:21pm
Subject: Re: Brikka Explodes Coffee?
 

BOTR Said:

After watching several YouTube videos, I am convinced something is wrong. The coffee never comes smoothly out of the top "valve". Maybe there is something mechanically wrong with my unit.

Posted July 6, 2013 link

The explosive force of it coming out the top spigot valve thing generally indicates a grind that is too coarse, too loose in the basket, and too high heat.  I've experienced the issue you are having, however not to the extreme of it going on the floor.  Do you have a picture of the coffee grinds you are using? (I may be able to tell you with more definity whether they are fine enough)

Also, what type of flame burner are you using?  You are using the correct of water?

As an aside, you should never have to spin the weight on the top or wiggle the Brikka to get it to work.

Len

 
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Posted Sat Jul 6, 2013, 1:36pm
Subject: Re: Brikka Explodes Coffee?
 

I checked out this video on youtube (and IMHO it is not giving a good representation of what the Brikka can do):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm_Vm-3RxSU

If I find time I may do a video from start to finish of what I do.

Len

 
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