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Posted Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:52am
Subject: Removing Fines From Your Ground Coffee
 

I use a powdered sugar sifter to remove fines from my ground coffee for french-press and vac pot. It makes for nearly sludge-free french-press, and keeps the vac pot glass filter from plugging up. There's various fine-mesh sifters out there, but this is the one I use: http://www.pastrychef.com/BAKERY-SIFTERS_p_909.html
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Posted Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:59am
Subject: Re: Removing Fines From Your Ground Coffee
 

While at MICE in Melbourne I was introduced to this product which has great mouth feel in the cup yet almost none of the negative BS associated with doing a french press..

I told Barry at Roastmasters about these and he now has them stateside

http://www.roastmasters.com/french-press-filters.html

 
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Posted Sat Oct 5, 2013, 12:49pm
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$0.20 each! What a rip off! Much better off buying an Espro press, which is used like a regular French press, is also virtually silt free, costs slightly more than a year's worth (daily use) of those paper filters, and is built to last for many years...and it's got a double wall for better heat retention.

 
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Posted Sat Oct 5, 2013, 1:26pm
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That's great emrad but my post was merely for information so he could have options. Your comment about..ripoff was unnecessary.

And if you note the idea behind the filter is also ease of cleaning not only reduction of sediment in the coffee. I make zero off of providing this data and did it to assist someone.

 
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Posted Sat Oct 5, 2013, 7:39pm
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Sorry, that's my opinion, and just like you, I'm free to state it. You, and others, are welcome to disagree.

...and my post didn't offer a different option?  I think it did. Now, between your post any my post there are two options.

 
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Posted Sun Oct 6, 2013, 8:48am
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Whats with the hostility? We're talking about COFFEE here.

The Clever solved the need for a FP filter anyway.
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Posted Sun Oct 6, 2013, 8:51am
Subject: Re: Removing Fines From Your Ground Coffee
 

Here is a third opinion:

I check my grinder, from time to time, to know that the 'fines' are less than 5%.  I do that visually, grounds spread out on white paper with a 10-power glass, but also by passing the brewed coffee through a filter, drying it, and weighing the filtrate.

I make most of my coffee with an Aeropress with the original Coava metal filter, with 300 micron holes.  That filters less well and I have a bit of mud at the bottom of each cup.  But …I don't have to drink it …?!  

Also, with my BraZen brewer, with the gold filter, I get similar mud, left over at the bottom of the urn.

What this note is really about is the 'micro-mud' which I believe to be in the 5 to 10 micron range, which does NOT settle out but remains in suspension in the brewed coffee.  I am of the opinion that this micro-mud adds a creamy character to the cup, mostly in 'mouth-feel'.  I prefer not to use paper filters that would remove it.  

I do not disagree with the experts (…and I am not one) when they say that fines over-extract and provide a bitter, unpleasant flavour to the cup.  But a small amount of fines can add an interesting component to the cup.

 
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Posted Sun Oct 6, 2013, 9:20am
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You could also buy a sieve, which some people have been experimenting with, to remove fines below a certain threshold. I have a 250 micron sieve that I mess around with now and then, but brewing with fines removed requires a lot of modification of your process.
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Posted Sun Oct 6, 2013, 1:13pm
Subject: Re: Removing Fines From Your Ground Coffee
 

The 'micro-mud' I think is one of the things I enjoy about french press. The powdered-sugar sifter I'm using I think is 500 micron (0.5mm mesh size), so probably a little too big, but it does a great job of getting the dust out of the ground coffee.
With some experimentation, I added a bit more to my quantity ground, and added a minute to my brew time. The result is excellent sludge-free french press. It still has plenty of the 'micro-mud' in suspension though, as mentioned by JKalpin.
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