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NolanMaxom
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Posted Tue Dec 10, 2013, 9:00am
Subject: Lelit Mara vs. Elektra Microcasa Semiautomatica
 

Hi everyone,

I'm looking for a compact espresso machine capable of making a couple of drinks in a row for the family without having to temperature surf. I've narrowed it down to two:

The Lelit Mara, http://espresso.lelit.com/catalogo/mara/
and the Elektra Microcasa Semiautomatica, http://www.elektrasrl.com/fam_retro_1grsa_ro_sx.php

The reason I'm debating these two is because I have very limited counter space. The lelit is the smallest E61 HX machine in the world, and the Elektra although not an E61, has a small footprint, a gorgeous design, and from what I've read here on Coffee Geek delivers excellent espresso. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your time,

Regards,
Andre
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Posted Tue Dec 10, 2013, 5:23pm
Subject: Re: Lelit Mara vs. Elektra Microcasa Semiautomatica
 

The PL62 Mara looks like a nice package. 1.5 liter boiler would give good stability. Can you buy one in North America? A cursory Google search did not reveal any distributors here.

I have seen the Microcasa in action (at Jim Schulman's house), and it is very nice, but not aesthetically pleasing to my eye. If you like it, I would say you would not be disappointed.

Other compact machines are the Quickmill Alexia (single boiler) or Vibiemme Domobar Junior (and both will save you several hundred dollars over the Elektra). For comparison (in centimeters):

PL62 = 22 w x 40.5 d x 35.5 h
Alexia = 22.9 w x 40 d x 38.7 h
Junior = 22.9 w x 40.6 d x 43.2 h
(edit) also the Bezzera BZ07:
BZ07 25 w x 42.5 d x 37.5 h

Of course neither beats the Microcasa's 10 inch (25.4 cm) footprint, if width is the deciding factor, then the PL62 or Alexia or Junior have the Microcasa beat. For the Microcasa you also have to have a place without a height restriction (23" or 58 cm)

The Alexia and Junior are available in North America.

 
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Posted Wed Dec 11, 2013, 10:32am
Subject: Re: Lelit Mara vs. Elektra Microcasa Semiautomatica
 

Thank you very much for all the help.
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Posted Wed Jan 22, 2014, 3:22pm
Subject: Re: Lelit Mara vs. Elektra Microcasa Semiautomatica
 

dana_leighton Said:

The PL62 Mara looks like a nice package. 1.5 liter boiler would give good stability. Can you buy one in North America? A cursory Google search did not reveal any distributors here.

Posted December 10, 2013 link

Does anyone know the answer to this question?  In my searches, I also have not seen the PL62 listed on any sites that sell Lelit in NA... has anyone else?
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Posted Wed Jan 22, 2014, 3:37pm
Subject: Re: Lelit Mara vs. Elektra Microcasa Semiautomatica
 

did you try here  northamerica@lelit.com
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Posted Wed Jan 22, 2014, 5:13pm
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steamer Said:

did you try here  northamerica@lelit.com

Posted January 22, 2014 link

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

    northamerica@lelit.com

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain lelit.com by mail.register.it. .

The error that the other server returned was:
553 5.1.1 sorry, no mailbox here by that name.

oops.  Guess it's back to the drawing board trying to find one of these :)
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Posted Wed Jan 22, 2014, 5:56pm
Subject: Re: Lelit Mara vs. Elektra Microcasa Semiautomatica
 

  • How compact does it need to be?
  • Which grinder will you pair with it?
  • What's your maximum budget?  

The Elektra is a good -- but less than great HX -- machine.  Unfortunately it's high quality in the cup is balanced by poor ergonomics.  The Semiautomatica is inconvenient in a number of ways, especially because the drip tray is so small, it lacks autofill, and is a burn magnet.  

Jim Schulman gave it a very good review in H-B, which covers just about everything anyone would want to know.  But to give the review some additional context, Jim moved on from the Semiautomatica to the Bezzera Strega without any regret.

There are a lot of good HXs on the market with a narrower than 12" footprint.  Some, quite interesting, well built, and with nearly all of their larger brothers' bells and whistles.  These machines may not be the lookers that the Elektra is, but are more comfortable living companions.    

Have you considered, for instance, the Faema Carisma, or the QM Anita?  There are a lot of other machines at the same level as well, not all of them sold by Chris either.

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Posted Thu Jan 23, 2014, 11:41am
Subject: Re: Lelit Mara vs. Elektra Microcasa Semiautomatica
 

I have the Elektra Semiautomatica and love it. I'm able to pull shot after shot in a row - works perfect with gatherings. Haven't run into any issues. I bought the machine back in October - the bronze and copper version. I highly recommend. Just a warning that the machine needs to be powered on about 32-33 minutes before reaching correct temperature - make sure you prepare in advance.
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Posted Thu Jan 23, 2014, 3:58pm
Subject: Re: Lelit Mara vs. Elektra Microcasa Semiautomatica
 

dana_leighton Said:

The PL62 Mara looks like a nice package. 1.5 liter boiler would give good stability. Can you buy one in North America? A cursory Google search did not reveal any distributors here.

Posted December 10, 2013 link

Ditto. On such a new unit, we will be getting one for testing - not expected fro another few months and then about 4-6 months of testing by us. HX design is a new area for Lelit, and hence we suggest waiting for proper testing under a 110 volt environment.

 
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Posted Fri Feb 14, 2014, 2:33pm
Subject: Re: Lelit Mara vs. Elektra Microcasa Semiautomatica
 

Hi Everyone
I have been following your post, and want the Lelit PL62 as well.......Here is some thing I found on line  for it.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsW1u9qxUm0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh2srErBUcQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TyBgNKvf-Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiGzlQj9jjw

I got it from the Lelit sales Rep in Europe, she said it wont be in the USA for a while
cheers guys
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