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Pfunk
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Posted Thu Feb 6, 2014, 9:22pm
Subject: Baratza Virtuoso vs Preciso for non-espresso brewing
 

I'm looking at getting either the Baratza Virtuoso or the Virtuoso Preciso.  From what I understand they both currently have the same identical burr set.  

I don't brew espresso so I'm wondering if the micro-adjustments the Preciso offers would be useful or not for drip/French press brewing.  I'm obviously not going to need the portafilter holder that the Preciso ships with.
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Posted Thu Feb 6, 2014, 9:46pm
Subject: Re: Baratza Virtuoso vs Preciso for non-espresso brewing
 

Virtuoso is what you want, same grinder, just Preciso adds micro arm adjustment to act step-less for espresso. Since your not doing espresso no need for it. The Virtuoso has fairly close macro steps which makes dialing coarse grinds easy, Micro won't really have an effect on coarse.
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Posted Fri Feb 7, 2014, 9:23am
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I second CMIN's comment---go for it!
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Posted Fri Feb 7, 2014, 11:02am
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How much different is the virtuoso to the encore for course?  I know there is the timer and some mental construction in the frame, but is that it?  Are the burrs really different on the new models, or different enough to matter for course?
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Posted Fri Feb 7, 2014, 11:13am
Subject: Re: Baratza Virtuoso vs Preciso for non-espresso brewing
 

bmfinc Said:

How much different is the virtuoso to the encore for course?  I know there is the timer and some mental construction in the frame, but is that it?  Are the burrs really different on the new models, or different enough to matter for course?

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Much better as far as "fines" control, the Encore is to compete at the low end with the people buying Capresso Infinities, Bodum Bistros etc... in which the Encore pimp slaps others in that class. But the Virtuoso adds better burrs (preciso burr set) and more closely spaced steps making dialing better. There are people that had the Encore for drip, press etc, and thought it was "ok" but wasn't happy with it for press, and upgraded to the Virtuoso and saw a big difference especially in press needs.
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Posted Fri Feb 7, 2014, 12:31pm
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CMIN Said:

Much better as far as "fines" control, the Encore is to compete at the low end with the people buying Capresso Infinities, Bodum Bistros etc... in which the Encore pimp slaps others in that class. But the Virtuoso adds better burrs (preciso burr set) and more closely spaced steps making dialing better. There are people that had the Encore for drip, press etc, and thought it was "ok" but wasn't happy with it for press, and upgraded to the Virtuoso and saw a big difference especially in press needs.

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Thanks for the info, I have always been curious.
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Posted Sat Feb 8, 2014, 7:54pm
Subject: Re: Baratza Virtuoso vs Preciso for non-espresso brewing
 

bmfinc Said:

Thanks for the info, I have always been curious.

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I have the Virtuoso Preciso (since I both brew and make espresso).
I love the way it grinds for both espresso and brewed coffees and agree that the Virtuoso (not Preciso) would be a good choice for brewed coffee.

I occasionally adjust by 1/2 macro steps (which you wouldn't be able to do) but I wouldn't miss it if I didn't have it other than for espresso.

Of course, if you're thinking of getting into espresso, you definitely would need the Preciso, but your post states that you are not.
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