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BarryR
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Posted Sat Feb 8, 2014, 1:20pm
Subject: Behmor Brazen -- First impressions
 

I'd contemplated getting once since they came out but had a not very old (now almost 3 years old) Phase Brew and noted some quality and carafe issues. After deciding that the Phase Brew was good but not great, I got a Brazen which I've now had for several days.

May first impression, basically, is that it's great! I'm still playing around but the coffee is definitely better than from the Phase Brew. I'm guessing the 3 key features of pre-soak, adjustable temperature and large shower head play a role. Also, the fact that the gold filter is the right size (I use a standard gold filter in the Phase Brew but it's smaller than the basket).

The build quality seems very good so I'm hoping previous valve issues have been fixed. I also find ZERO spillage from the carafe.
The other great feature is the manual release. Now when I'm using my Handy Brewer, I just set the Behmor for the temp I want and put my Handy Brewer on a scale right under the Brazen, when the temperature is reached, I release the right amount of water (by weight) directly into the Handy Brewer.

I think the styling is OK but would have preferred a little less rocket ship / Darth Vader's Helmet and a little more classic (like the plain jane Phase Brew).
I also do not have the problem which people have reported of the filter basket coming out when the carafe is pulled.

So, if it lasts many years, I think I'll be 100% satisfied!
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IMAWriter
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Espresso: Bezzera Strega
Grinder: Forte, OE Pharos,...
Vac Pot: Adcraft SS, Yama 8 cup
Drip: Brazen, Kalita, Chemex,...
Roaster: Behmor 1600, CO/UFO combo
Posted Sat Feb 8, 2014, 9:53pm
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Barry,
welcome to the BraZen alliance! LOL
My original also had the valve clog thing (only a small run did, I believe?), but Joe Behm sent me a new one, no questions asked. It has been a gem for 2 years.
IMO, Joe's CS is right up there with Baratza's. What I really like is no matter what volume (over 20Oz) I choose, the resulting brew is consistently as good. Having the water heated prior to the brew cycle guarantees those smaller pots are at perfect temperature from the get go, unlike most brewers that don't reach proper temp till 10oz or more of water have passed through the coffee.

The newer carafe is totally dripless they say, but my original carafe doesn't seem to leak.
I'd say my BraZen brewed coffee rivals my very best Kalita manual pours.

Funny, I haven't tried your method of manual release. Makes so much sense. It's all there.

Guilty confession. My wife wants her coffee ready at 5:30 AM. I'm am in deep slumber till at least 7AM. So (don't tell anyone) I grind the night before, hit the "auto" button. I NEVER thought I'd use that feature, and I even slightly chided Joe for including it. Oh how WRONG I was. Lets see, that's an extra 1.5 hours sleep X 5 (days a week) times 104 weeks=  Well you get the idea. LOL

 
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BarryR
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Posted Sun Feb 9, 2014, 5:11am
Subject: Re: Behmor Brazen -- First impressions
 

Glad yours is holding up.

Regarding customer service, my 3 main coffee instruments are the Brazen, CC1 for espresso and a Baratza Preciso.
Unfortunately, I've have repair issues with all 3 (plus the Behmor 1600 which I owned until previously).

All 3 manufacturers give outstanding customer service. I had similar positive experiences with Bunn (the 1st two versions of my Phase Brew had issues).

One of the reasons I was willing to buy the Brazen despite some negative (quality related) reviews was my past experiences with Behmor and their reputation.

By the way, do you know if that's a standard (i.e., replaceable) gold filter? It's a little larger than the generic one I've been using in my Bunn (neither of which really fits the Bunn).

Also, I' m wondering if the carafe is standard (in which case I might get an extra for parties, etc). I guess I could email Behmor.
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Posted Mon Feb 10, 2014, 1:38pm
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I'm not sure about if the filter is standard or one they've custom made for the Brazen. You could aways do what I used to recommend people do when looking for a specific part, bring it with you when you go shopping. It might look odd to passers-by, but that way you're not buying something you don't need.

As for the carafe, it's a Mr. Coffee Thermal carafe (obviously un-branded) with a redesigned spout. I don't know if there is anything else that is different on it vs the Brazen one. The 8-cup Mr. Coffee one I see online doesn't quite look right as compared to the Brazens carafe. You can always contact Behmor CS to see if you'd be able to buy an extra carafe as opposed to taking a chance with a close match.

You're correct with the styling though, my wife totally calls it a rocket ship.
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Roaster: Behmor 1600, CO/UFO combo
Posted Mon Feb 10, 2014, 4:43pm
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RandomTask Said:

You're correct with the styling though, my wife totally calls it a rocket ship.

Posted February 10, 2014 link

Early on, I think it was Joe himself who nicknamed his creation "Gort."
There is a thread with that name in it. A long and copious one.

 
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Posted Mon Feb 10, 2014, 4:47pm
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IMAWriter Said:

Early on, I think it was Joe himself who nicknamed his creation "Gort."
There is a thread with that name in it. A long and copious one.

Posted February 10, 2014 link

I'd followed that thread but didn't realize who Gort was. Just googled it; definitely see the resemblance.

I don't dislike the styling but think it could have been better.
I tend to like simple classic styling more than futuristic or ornate.
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Location: Brentwood, TN
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Espresso: Bezzera Strega
Grinder: Forte, OE Pharos,...
Vac Pot: Adcraft SS, Yama 8 cup
Drip: Brazen, Kalita, Chemex,...
Roaster: Behmor 1600, CO/UFO combo
Posted Mon Feb 10, 2014, 5:02pm
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BarryR Said:

I don't dislike the styling but think it could have been better.
I tend to like simple classic styling more than futuristic or ornate.

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Yeah, but the COFFEE!!
I actually like the styling, no problems. I DO wish it would have been 50oz, as the 40 disappear before I GET ANY.
However, Gort is already tall enough!

 
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