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IntrepidQ3
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Espresso: Gaggia Classic PID
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Posted Sat Apr 26, 2014, 10:48am
Subject: Grinder for pour over
 

Need some advice. I currently have a baratza Vario and getting tired of bouncing back and forth for espresso and pour over. I am thinking of getting another grinder for pour over only.

Looking for an electric grinder, thinking about the breville smart grinder. With out going into commercial price range. Are there any other grinders that provide a consistent grind that is not baratza?
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Posted Sat Apr 26, 2014, 11:38am
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Pour over is mostly "medium," and tolerates a fair amount of variance in grind size distribution.  It's about the easiest task for a grinder.  

We used a Breville Smart for all our non-espresso brewing needs and found it very competent for pour-over, siphon, and even press.  It's extremely user-friendly, and has a great hopper.  

I know you don't want another Baratza, so by way of comparison only, the Smart is very close "in the cup," to the Baratza Virtuoso.  Although it's even slightly more plasticky than the Virtuoso, it's a few bucks less expensive.  And dude, I'm telling you that when it comes to non-Turkish/non-espresso, those two are damn near twins.  

The Smart is a little better in the cup for pour over or siphon than a grinder one next step down -- a Baratza Encore or Capresso Infinity, for example but only a little.  On the other hand, there's a helluva difference between a Smart and an Infinity or Baratza Encore when it comes to press.  

Still sticking with pour over, and by way of example only, there's a slightly more noticeable improvement when you go up from the Smart to a Vario or Forte B; but "slightly" means "slightly."  

You don't hit "in your face" differences in pour-over grinders until you go way down to the sub $50 bottom of the range, Mr. Coffee and Cuisinart are two to avoid; or all the way to the top, Bunnzilla for instance.  

However, if there's any chance at all you'll be grinding for press or using your grinder for cupping, the Smart is the most economical, non-Baratza choice.  If all you'll ever do is pour over, you won't lose much in the cup with $100/Infinity class grinders.        

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IntrepidQ3
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Posted Sat Apr 26, 2014, 11:54am
Subject: Re: Grinder for pour over
 

boar_d_laze Said:

The Smart is a little better in the cup for pour over or siphon than a grinder one next step down -- a Baratza Encore or Capresso Infinity, for example but only a little.  On the other hand, there's a helluva difference between a Smart and an Infinity or Baratza Encore when it comes to press.  

Still sticking with pour over, and by way of example only, there's a slightly more noticeable improvement when you go up from the Smart to a Vario or Forte B; but "slightly" means "slightly."  

Rich

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Thanks for the quick reply. In the future I do see a siphon, but currently it is mostly pour over and rarely press when I am not pulling shots, so good to know I could have the flexibility there wit the smart.

I have thought about stretching the budget for a new espresso grinder.. Maybe super jolly.. Use the Vario for pour over haha. In the end though I would rather save some money as the Vario does provide a nice shot.
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