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RayTCoffeeGuy
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Posted Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:14am
Subject: The best auto drip brewer?
 

So, I'm looking for a great auto drip brewer,

Usually the problems go with their heating plate that justs boils the coffee, Followed by a brewing temperature that is instable causing underextraction and over-extraction. With a filter that seeps and griefs coffee oils, Worse the water goes in a small steady stream that only causes uneven extraction.

So my only options are the Technivorm Moccamaster or a Hario V60

And of course the manual drip brewers would give you more control over the parameters.

 
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Posted Tue Jun 17, 2014, 6:42am
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Personally, I'd opt for the Technivorm Moccamaster which has separate heating elements for brewing and the hotplate.

 
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Posted Tue Jun 17, 2014, 6:54am
Subject: Re: The best auto drip brewer?
 

Behmor Brazen. (see my review HERE).
It is the only one as far as I know that has adjustable temperature, altitude adjustment, can be easily re-calibrated for electronic drift, and programmable pre-infusion among other advanced design features.

 
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Posted Wed Jun 18, 2014, 9:10am
Subject: Re: The best auto drip brewer?
 

I'd say overall, Technivorm.  For consistency, quality and durability it's hard to beat.  Brazen can produce great results due to it's many features that allow adjustability.  But be careful, lots of us have had many, many problems with these (see the threads).  I've mothballed mine, just got tired of constantly replacing units with Behmor.  It's a great design, but was not ready for prime time when released.  Maybe it's different now.
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Posted Wed Jun 18, 2014, 9:33am
Subject: Re: The best auto drip brewer?
 

joc3721 Said:

I'd say overall, Technivorm.  For consistency, quality and durability it's hard to beat.  Brazen can produce great results due to it's many features that allow adjustability.  But be careful, lots of us have had many, many problems with these (see the threads).  I've mothballed mine, just got tired of constantly replacing units with Behmor.  It's a great design, but was not ready for prime time when released.  Maybe it's different now.

Posted June 18, 2014 link

I own both the Technivorm (KBT-741) and the Behmor Brazen, the Brazen worked great but as quoted it developed some teething problems, with the TV less is more, its a straight coffee brewer, no bells or whistles and it brews a great cup every time.
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Posted Wed Jun 18, 2014, 10:05am
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Why not a Bunn? I wouldn't necessarily consider it the "best". But, for the money and for making a whole pot of coffee, I would say they are hard to beat once you get it dialed in. I've noticed people complain about the balancing act of grind vs. strength. I have found the sweet spot on my NHB and A10 to be 8 cups. My coffee is far from weak. I measure it with a spectrometer and consistently get between 1.3-1.4% TDS. A little stronger than the SCAA nominal, but is where I like it. Also, the water temp is hard to beat. There are also mods you can make to slow down the water flow and what have you. Add a PID (I did) and you can even adjust the temp.  :)

I've never used a Technivorm and I'm always up for taking that next step to better coffee. But, for almost 3 times the cost, I will stick with my Bunn for pots and pourover for onesy twosies on the weekend. All IMHO of course.

BTW, I'm going to start a thread on here about Bunn temps here in the next day or so if anyone is interested. I noticed some people complaining about their coffee not getting hot enough, so it inspired me to run some temp analysis on my NHB and A10. Not the results I expected to see at all. But, I will leave it at that since this isn't my thread.


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Posted Wed Jun 18, 2014, 10:08am
Subject: Re: The best auto drip brewer?
 

Also, at least on the Bunn's I own, you have the option of leaving the hot plate off. No need to use it except maybe to preheat the pot for a few. I just pour mine up into a thermal carafe when it's done brewing.

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Posted Wed Jun 18, 2014, 10:18am
Subject: Re: The best auto drip brewer?
 

I have the Technivorm KBT741 and have never had an issue with it.  It consistently, day after day, quickly produces excellent coffee.  I use the Frieling 23 carat gold filter with mine because I am environmentally conscious.  

No, just kidding on that.  I use the gold filter as I feel it provides more body to the brew.

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Posted Wed Jun 18, 2014, 1:58pm
Subject: Re: The best auto drip brewer?
 

If you are getting Technivorms recommended then you are already talking about several hundred dollars, so I will feel free to mention commercial Bunn machines.

In the past I had a Bunn CW TC
                 http://www.bunn.com/products/thermal/cw_tc.html
which worked great.  If you email them, they will send you a new head that restricts flow for free.  It worked great with the new head.  I only went searching for more because sometimes I like my coffee amazingly strong and it couldn't manage it.

I had thought about getting a commercial Trifecta (search my post history) but in the end I couldn't justify the cost of it.

I ended out settling for a Bunn Axiom DV TC
           http://www.bunn.com/products/thermal/axiom_dv_tc.html
which is really nice because it does everything I could want it to do.  You can set brew temperature digitally, and you can really make it brew things however you want it to.  You can set the time you want it to brew for, and have it automatically do its pulse brew adjustments.  However, you can also manually set it to pulse brew with every single little detail about how you want it to brew.  So I can make coffee that it as intense as I could like.

Best of luck whatever you choose!

Sidenote:  For medical reasons, I can only drink decaf.  So often the coffee can just come across as being too weak for me.  To adjust for that, I am picky and roast my own beans and also try to control extraction how I want it to be.  I think I am finally at a point where I am genuinely happy drinking decaf.
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Posted Wed Jun 18, 2014, 8:28pm
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Heres my pick. Always consistent brew temperature,cone filter and thermal carafe.
Bonavita BV1800 8-Cup Coffee Maker

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