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tmccumber
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Posted Wed Jun 18, 2014, 7:44am
Subject: Is it worth buying a grinder if I will use the coffee the next morning?
 

I am looking to buy myself a grinder for a late fathers day gift. The question I have is it going to be worth spending $200 ish if I am going to be using the coffee the next morning. I wake up very early and need to have coffee ready for when I wake up. So I will be grinding the coffee the night before and setting up my coffee pot on a timer. Is it worth the grinder if I am not using the coffee right away? Or should I keep buying ground as I have been.

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Posted Wed Jun 18, 2014, 8:22am
Subject: Re: Is it worth buying a grinder if I will use the coffee the next morning?
 

Hi and welcome!

While coffee does stale within about 15 minutes of grinding, not everybody can taste it.  Even if they do, many more would drink it anyway.  And for "the rest of the world" outside of coffeegeekdom, convenience trumps the taste of their first cup of the day.  I think you will definitely improve your cup by grinding fresh(er) and buying whole beans from a good roaster within a week of the roast date.  It's supposedly stale within 15 days of roast but it often needs a few days to degas or something to reach its full flavor potential.
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Posted Wed Jun 18, 2014, 9:29am
Subject: Re: Is it worth buying a grinder if I will use the coffee the next morning?
 

I think it's very hard to answer your question.  As said already, some people can taste the difference and some cannot.  Certainly, grinding the beans the night before will lend them to be stale by the time the water hits them, but I suspect you would notice a big difference between that, and anything you bought pre-ground for you.

Is there some reason you can't change your routine slightly? It takes less than a minute to grind the beans and drop the grounds into a filter, then flip the switch on your machine. you don't go to bed all dressed for the morning right?  Can't you just stumble over to the coffee setup, get the thing going, and then go get ready?  How much time would that really set you back?  Sorry, man, but you're talking to CoffeeGeeks here...we take this seriously...and just about any of us would get up 5 minutes earlier in order to improve the quality of our coffee. :)

 
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Posted Wed Jun 18, 2014, 9:34am
Subject: Re: Is it worth buying a grinder if I will use the coffee the next morning?
 

+1 to everything Julie (wabbitt) says. You didn't list your equipment in your profile, but I am assuming it is a standard Mr. Coffee type drip maker - if that's the case, you might look into a combination grinder/brewer which will grind the beans just before brewing them. This has its drawbacks, mostly that the grinder is a low quality blade grinder and will produce wildly inconsistent particle sizes. But the grind will be fresh.

 
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Posted Wed Jun 18, 2014, 9:38am
Subject: Re: Is it worth buying a grinder if I will use the coffee the next morning?
 

Personally I would just get up a little earlier, nothing beats freshly ground beans in the morning, it takes all of 1 minute to grind them and maybe 5 minutes to brew.
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Posted Wed Jun 18, 2014, 9:45am
Subject: Re: Is it worth buying a grinder if I will use the coffee the next morning?
 

I am with you about the extra time...and I think that a good portion of it has to do also with the coffee maker I am using and also my past experiences with the blade grinders.

  1. Noise - I wake up at 5 and everyone else is sleeping for another couple hours so the blade grinders in the past have been loud enough to wake up the little ones. I know the burr grinders are quieter but it is still a concern.

  2. Brew time - the coffee maker I have takes forever to brew. I have it set for 25 minutes before I wake up and it is just finishing as I am getting up. I currently have a Hamilton Beach 2-Way Brewer (49980Z). I like to have a cup while I am waking up/getting ready for work than I have another in the car. I do not love the coffee maker (cant stand it in fact) so I do plan on replacing that in the future.

I looked into the Breville You Brew with the burr grinder in it but saw a lot of negatives on it.

I really appreciate your feedback on this.
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Posted Wed Jun 18, 2014, 10:31am
Subject: Re: Is it worth buying a grinder if I will use the coffee the next morning?
 

My neighbor has a Youbrew, no problems, he loves it. It is pretty big though, pics make it look smaller then it really is lol. Once dialed in, the coffee is pretty much as good as a Bonavita and Techno. I got him into coffee and he uses fresh beans too. It is kinda loud though. I'd still take a Bonavita and separate grinder but that's me.

A Encore is pretty cheap and fairly quiet for coarse compared to cheaper burr grinders, it's fast too so whatever sound will be gone soon.
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Posted Wed Jun 18, 2014, 8:38pm
Subject: Re: Is it worth buying a grinder if I will use the coffee the next morning?
 

If quiet is more important than convenience and you're okay with spending a little extra time with your coffee, have you considered a manual method?  I make my morning (melitta cone) drip coffee in 10 minutes, including hand grinding the coffee while the Hotshot heats the water.  If I choose to do moka pot (stovetop or electric), it's also 10 minutes but cleanup has to wait until I get home.  Both methods fill my 16oz tumbler, which is as much as you'd get out of YouBrew.  Aeropress makes coffee a little faster, but my timing's the same because there are more pieces to wash...still 10 minutes before I can run out the door.
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Posted Wed Jun 18, 2014, 10:13pm
Subject: Re: Is it worth buying a grinder if I will use the coffee the next morning?
 

tmccumber Said:

Is it worth buying a grinder if I will use the coffee the next morning?

Posted June 18, 2014 link

For me, absolutely not.   No one can answer this for you except you.

Here's what you do.. Go out and buy a burr grinder.    use it and see if you can taste the difference.

If so keep it.. if not return it.  

Best to decide for yourself.
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tmccumber
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Posted Thu Jun 19, 2014, 7:43am
Subject: Re: Is it worth buying a grinder if I will use the coffee the next morning?
 

I think I am leaning toward the separate grinder and I will buy a new coffee maker at another time. Summer is almost here and since I am a teacher I can go with the grind and brew and wait with my current Hamilton Beach. This summer I will buy something new that will brew a better cup faster than my HB.

For grinders is it worth spending the money on a Breville Smart Grinder (160 after discount)? Also would one of the Bunn line of makers be a good fast solution for a coffee maker? Seems like it especially looking at the prices.

Thanks again
Tim
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