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Booger
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Posted Wed Oct 20, 2004, 4:03pm
Subject: Need new brewing method??
 

After several months of playing around with this new coffee making hobbie, I am ready to graduate to the best method of coffee making.  I currently use a Starbucks Barista Quattro and it works just fine but after reading a bit on this site I find that drip is a less than desirable method.   I just purchased a Capresso infinity grinder and am looking to improve my brewing methods.  Have considered French Press, Moka Brew, bodum electric, Chemex and single cup method by swissgold.  The thing is I need something that is not going to take a long time in the morning to operate as I am usually running late for work.  Also I am a single coffee drinker and drink about two to three cups a morning so I am looking for a method that would brew that amount without trouble.  

I am specifically looking for a method that would be better than drip.  I Have looked into French Press and Moka Brew and they seem good as does the single cup pour over method.

Any suggestions would greatly help me in my quest for coffee Nirvana.

 
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Posted Wed Oct 20, 2004, 4:52pm
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If you want speed, consider an instant hot water supply that is at brew temp (about 190dF to 205dF) then either French Press or Pour Over will take under five minutes.

This will do or here is a less expensive solution for instant hot water for $90.

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Posted Wed Oct 20, 2004, 5:03pm
Subject: Re: Need new brewing method??
 

Hi guys...
I stayed with a friend for a couple of days that had a tea pot made by the British and it was an electric hot plate of sorts the pot locked into and it was boiling in under 4 minutes!

I forgot the name of it though. It was really...er...hot...cool?...wonderful.

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Posted Wed Oct 20, 2004, 5:11pm
Subject: Re: Need new brewing method??
 

I really can't say enough great things about French press.  Especially my insulated french press (click here).  But as a brewing method French press is great also because you can control all the coffee variables.  This alone makes it possible (and easy with practice) to dial in your perfect cup.  However French press can be somewhat time consuming.  Most of that is boiling water though.  Stepping only takes 4.5-5 minutes.  If you have that much time (15 mins) then it's tough to beat French press.  Did I mention it's also very easy to clean.  We all know that's essential.  My vote is for French press.  Let us know what you decide...

 
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Posted Wed Oct 20, 2004, 6:28pm
Subject: Re: Need new brewing method??
 

Bodum makes two electric kettles (called an ibis & mini Ibis) that can boil water in minutes. One is a 1.7 liter and the other is 0.8 liter. They are somewhere around 1500 Watts. The small one can boil 27oz in 4 minutes.

We use this at work with our presses all the time. This is a perfect match for a press, even if your short on time.  Water boils in about the time we can hand grind a press worth of coffee and get everything set up. It takes less than 10 minutes to make coffee this way.

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Posted Wed Oct 20, 2004, 8:47pm
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It seems as if you gents are really into the French Press-  Thats interesting because that was kinda at the top of my list.  I almost bought a bodum Kenya push pot and a nice tea kettle last weekend.  I am thinking about this one really hard.

Thanks for all the fine suggestions....

 
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Posted Wed Oct 20, 2004, 9:15pm
Subject: Re: Need new brewing method??
 

I have been brewing with the Chemex, and just added the FP to my lineup. The FP seems to fit your criteria the best. I am playing around with mine, trying to dial it in for my taste buds. One downside to the FP is the sludge factor due to the lack of a paper filter. It is managable by working on tweaking your grind, your decanting technique, and even your drinking technique(don't take that last sip, etc.) The Chemex actually makes me feel like a mad scientist sometimes. I find myself obsessing about every aspect of the brewing process. It's almost like too much variable control.

I'll second the vote for the Bodum Ibis Kettle as an accessory. I bought the 1.7 liter one, and I'm very happy with it.
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Posted Thu Oct 21, 2004, 5:55am
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I have one like these.  They are really awesome.  Many asians keep one on all the time for hot tea.  You can set the temp, descaling, etc.  Some even have dechlorination. Made in Japan, they last forever.  Not so cheap though, but who here is really on a budget?

http://www.zojirushi.com/elepots.html

 
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Posted Thu Oct 21, 2004, 7:53am
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I have two questions:

  1. Why an electric tea kettle when I can boil faster with aluminum and gas heat?

  2.  When using a french press what about the grounds at the bottom of the pot?  Dont' they continue to steep and add bitter flavor to the pot?

Thanks  All-

 
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Posted Thu Oct 21, 2004, 9:38am
Subject: Re: Need new brewing method??
 

Booger Said:

I have two questions:

Why an electric tea kettle when I can boil faster with aluminum and gas heat?

Posted October 21, 2004 link

If you don't want instant hot water and you don't mind drinking water boiled in aluminum then you're good to go.

Booger Said:

When using a french press what about the grounds at the bottom of the pot?  Dont' they continue to steep and add bitter flavor to the pot?

Thanks  All-

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Some say yes, I say no. I have a Tirra Press as well as several conventional presses. The Tirra lifts the grounds out of the water when you have finished brewing. I have used both side by side for larger groups and have not discerned a large difference. More acute tasters than I am, might be able to taste a difference.

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