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coffeenut
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Posted Mon Oct 27, 2003, 10:49pm
Subject: I need help in choosing the best coffee beans.....
 

I am a new poster.  I live in Montreal, Canada and LOVE coffee.  I want to be educated on the best beans to buy.  For my personal taste, I like a full-bodied taste, but cannot handle a "hanging-from-the-ceiling" hi with too much cafeine.  On my recent trip to COSTCO, I bought Starbucks French Roast (smoky and intense (Bold), and I really like the taste.  I also bought a bag of LavAzza Crema e Aroma, which a work colleague of mine had recommended.  Any suggestions?  I know virtually nothing about beans, except that I know that if the beans are darker, the caffeine is less.  Please, can someone educate me?  This is my little piece of heaven to have a great cup of coffee....... thank you.

 
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Posted Tue Oct 28, 2003, 1:09am
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There's really no substitute to buying different coffees and trying them out. It will take time to learn, but you will enjoy doing it. Nevertheless, I can give a couple of pointers:

  • Avoid brandname coffees, you're just paying for the marketing. Find a good local roaster and try single origin coffees. Also, most inexpensive branded coffees, as well as most Italian brands, now contain a cheap form of coffee called Robusta. This bears about the same relation to normal Arabica coffee as rye does to wheat. If you are caffeine sensitive, avoid robusta, since it contains twice the amount.

  • Roasting makes a difference. Lighter roasts tend towards acidic flavors, darker roasts tend towards bitter ones. Roasts called "Full City" or "Medium" tend to have a balance of acidic and bitter flavors. Contrary to popular belief, the caffeine difference between light and dark roasts is negligible.

  • High quality coffee is naturally sweet and contains interesting flavors both at lighter-acidic and darker-bitter roasts. So a good coffee roasted light will be sweet and acidic like fruit or wine, while a good dark roast will be sweet and bitter like a desert with nuts, chocolate, caramel and spice.

  • Although there are many exceptions, coffees from each continent tend to be somewhat alike. The best coffees from each tend to be more suited to light or dark roasts. Going from the lightest to the darkest: Central America, South America and Caribean, Africa, and finally Indonesia & India.

  • Most of this information is completely useless unless you use coffee that has been roasted less than ten days before and grind it just before brewing. Bean coffee older than about three weeks, and ground coffee older than about 1 1/2 hours is so degraded that it tastes like a poor unsweetened cocoa and not much else. Freezing preserves bean coffee if carefully done, but the fancy packaging does not, despite the claims of mass market roasters.

You can found out more by reading the coffee FAQ.

 
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Posted Tue Oct 28, 2003, 6:09am
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Take the advice of another_jim.  Does McDonalds make the best & the freshest or juiciest (or even descent hamburgers)?  No, of course, not.  It is barely edibale.  If @ all...

Same goes for Sh-tbucks.  They are no better than a McDonalds & such.

another_jim gives good advices.  You will never go back to Sh-tbucks again.  Trust me...
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Posted Tue Oct 28, 2003, 12:19pm
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coffee_wine_ismylife Said:

Same goes for Sh-tbucks.  They are no better than a McDonalds & such.

another_jim gives good advices.  You will never go back to Sh-tbucks again.  Trust me...

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The first time I saw your reference to "Sh-tbucks" it was mildly entertaining.  The 15th time in about three days...it just reminds me of a small child who discovered a word they think is cool so that's all they say for the next week or two.
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Posted Tue Oct 28, 2003, 1:33pm
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Sh-tbucks...

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We got it. You don't like Starbucks.
That's ok, but reading "Sh-tbucks" so often makes me not want to read your posts anymore. If you have any other knowledge to share, that would be much more appreciated.

 
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Posted Tue Oct 28, 2003, 4:05pm
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Roxie,

I'm glad you said that.  I was thinking it but wasn't going to say anything.

    Jim

 
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Posted Tue Oct 28, 2003, 5:13pm
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I just call it the way I see it.  I do not appreciate the brainwashing of America.  And, cannot bring myself to call that company anything else...
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Posted Tue Oct 28, 2003, 6:24pm
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jliedeka Said:

Roxie,

I'm glad you said that.  I was thinking it but wasn't going to say anything.

    Jim

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I wasn't.  But then I did.  ;-)

coffee_wine_ismylife Said:

I just call it the way I see it.  I do not appreciate the brainwashing of America.  And, cannot bring myself to call that company anything else...

Posted October 28, 2003 link

Oh, please, give me a break.
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Posted Tue Oct 28, 2003, 6:28pm
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coffee_wine_ismylife Said:

And, cannot bring myself to call that company anything else...

Posted October 28, 2003 link

Tut, tut.  Surely you can think of hundreds of other ways to defame them and do it far more deftly.  I'll offer "Corporate Purveyors of Caffeinated Swill".  Actually, I don't hold a view quite that extreme but offer it only to introject some levity.  :-)

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Posted Tue Oct 28, 2003, 7:26pm
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OK, I will lay off the Big Green Garbage Machine (a bit).
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