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espressofreak777
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Posted Thu Jul 27, 2006, 5:29pm
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Whats the difference between getting a bag of, for instance,sumatra from starbucks or another place.Is it starbuck's blend or is sumatra a bean. I know  coffees such as french roast ,italian roast,etc are roasted longer and darker than other coffees,but what beans do they use? These may seem like stupid questions but ive just started learning about coffee in depth.
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Posted Thu Jul 27, 2006, 5:40pm
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Most roasters consider the exact beans in each of their blends to be somewhat of a trade secret. There are general guidelines for some basics but overall, service, quality of roast and blend are the top three things that differentiate one roaster from another. This is not true for "unblended" roasts. If it says 'Aged Sumatran' it should be. Like wise Columbian Or Smith Family Coffee Estate - Bourbon, Sao Paulo.....

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espressofreak777 Said:

Whats the difference between getting a bag of, for instance,sumatra from starbucks or another place.Is it starbuck's blend or is sumatra a bean. I know  coffees such as french roast ,italian roast,etc are roasted longer and darker than other coffees,but what beans do they use? These may seem like stupid questions but ive just started learning about coffee in depth.

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Sumatra is an island in Indonesia.  When you purchase a 'sumatra' , that just means the bean comes from there.

Coffee is labeld by different formulas:
  Origin: Sumatra, Kenyan, Yemen, Ethiopian, Brazillian, etc
  Bean Varietal Type: Ethiopian Yirgacheffe , Ethioipian Haraar, Brazillian Bourbon, etc
  Roast: City, Full City, Vienna, French, Italian, Light, Dark , Medium , Espresso
  Blend: anything you want to call it, espresso, french etc - can often be other names

Notice how 'espresso' is either a roast or a blend - people label it by both, but its really just a method of preperation.

WHen you get a bag of Sumatran from starbucks, you're paying $10 for 1 lb of beans that came from sumatra at some point in time, were roasted 2 months ago, and put in a bag for you.

When you get a bag from a local roaster, you're paying $5-12 for 1 lb of beans that came from sumatra at some point in time, were roasted this week, and put in a bag for you.

If you have a reputable local roaster, you're likely to have some premium beans.  All coffee from sumatra doesn't taste the same.  Some is cheap crap.  Some is ultra premium.  It varies by grower and by grading.
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Posted Thu Jul 27, 2006, 8:01pm
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Thanks you completely  cleared up my confusion.Whats the grading scale?What would be a good grade and a bad grade?Also how do you know if the grower is good?
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Posted Thu Jul 27, 2006, 11:53pm
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espressofreak777 Said:

Thanks you completely  cleared up my confusion.Whats the grading scale?What would be a good grade and a bad grade?Also how do you know if the grower is good?

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It's all about taste and reputation, really.  

The grading scale is.. well, ignore the grading scale.  You want coffee classified as Specialty grade, for sure, but there are other grades like Strictly Hard Bean and the like.  

Just find a source for freshly roasted specialty grade coffee, and you'll be on your way.

 
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