calblacksmith Moderator Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 5,662 Location: Riverside, Ca, U.S.A. Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: ECM Veneziano A1 Grinder: Many different commercial Vac Pot: 40s era Silex Drip: Milita, Bunn&Curtis... Roaster: Cast iron pan, gas burner
Posted Thu Feb 7, 2013, 10:30am Subject: Re: Good machine or good bean?
I quit trying a long time ago, I brew what I consider to be very good coffee. Great results are possible with a clean sock, an open pot and great beans properly ground (the sock can be optional, just let the coffee settle in the pot). The worlds best "brewer" feed bad beans will only give you swill to drink. So, which is more Important, I ask you in your opinion?
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Feed the newbs, starve the trolls and above all enjoy what you drink!
vanjait Senior Member Joined: 1 Feb 2013 Posts: 10 Location: sumatra Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Thu Feb 7, 2013, 1:17pm Subject: Re: Good machine or good bean?
I'm not sure, that's why i thread this question. never make own coffee before, I mind from grind until roasted. I have saw many coffee machine, are they can influence the taste? more better coffee?
so i can decide what important thing to do when i make own coffee.
calblacksmith Moderator Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 5,662 Location: Riverside, Ca, U.S.A. Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: ECM Veneziano A1 Grinder: Many different commercial Vac Pot: 40s era Silex Drip: Milita, Bunn&Curtis... Roaster: Cast iron pan, gas burner
Posted Thu Feb 7, 2013, 2:45pm Subject: Re: Good machine or good bean?
There are many methods of making coffee, each requires a different machine or device. The TWO things that is constant with ALL methods of brewing coffee is a good grinder and good quality, properly roasted, fresh beans.
Each method may have it's own slightly different affect on the taste of the coffee but without good beans, properly roasted and ground and FRESH, you have nothing.
In real life, my name is Wayne P.
Feed the newbs, starve the trolls and above all enjoy what you drink!
yakster Senior Member Joined: 25 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,006 Location: San Jose, CA Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: Gaggia Factory / La Peppina... Grinder: Vario / Kyocera Vac Pot: Yama 8 + Pyrex Lox-in Rod Drip: Brazen / Kalita / Chemex /... Roaster: Behmor
Posted Thu Feb 7, 2013, 3:24pm Subject: Re: Good machine or good bean?
There was a saying I once read to the effect that everything that you do to good coffee from roasting to brewing can only have a negative influence, that the potential is there in the coffee seed but if you don't treat it optimally then you will diminish the quality. I'm not sure that I necessarily completely agree with this, but good coffee is the first requirement.
I once made myself a cup of coffee by just pouring hot water into a cup with the grounds in the bottom and then used a spoon to drink it, like I were cupping the coffee. I didn't have any other good means of brewing the coffee at the time and it was enjoyable because the coffee was freshly roasted.
KoHiLabs Senior Member Joined: 12 Feb 2013 Posts: 9 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Expertise: I love coffee
Grinder: Baratza Vario Drip: Chemex, V60, Press Pot,...
Posted Tue Feb 12, 2013, 1:08pm Subject: Re: Good machine or good bean?
Beans. BUT brewing coffee is like a tripod with legs being: ingredients, equipment and technique. If any of the legs are too short the whole thing tips over.
KenpoJew Senior Member Joined: 9 Feb 2012 Posts: 9 Location: SCHAUMBURG Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: Moka Pot Drip: Bonavita
Posted Fri Feb 15, 2013, 10:28pm Subject: Re: Good machine or good bean?
Good Beans.
Good quality bean are the basis for all good coffee.
It is like a house. It does not matter how much money you spend on making it look great. If it does not have a good foundation (quality beans) then it is all for nothing.
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