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Posted Thu Jan 2, 2014, 10:09pm
Subject: Does a ground fresh roasted bean degas more quickly than a whole fresh bean?
 

So I normally like to break my beans up into smaller portions and freeze them on day 5 or 6. We consumed  an unprecedented amount of coffee, even for us, over the holidays. I am going to break into the next 5 pounds early or go without. I was wondering since ground beans oxidize much more quickly due to the increased surface area then might not beans that were still a little gassy degas more quickly after grinding and so benefit from resting a few mins or so after grinding.

When i say smaller portions I freeze in bags small enough for one normal days consumption. Yes it means daily trips to the deep freeze but once I dial in a batch I spend very little time futzing with my Mazzer day to day.

 
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Posted Thu Jan 2, 2014, 10:31pm
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Yes, this does work and is  commonly done for roasts that are 'too fresh'; Grind 15-20 minutes before brewing.
I only use this for roasts less that 3 days old though. It helps for better extraction to reduce the CO2, but still not the same flavor balance as waiting the extra few days rest.
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Posted Fri Jan 3, 2014, 6:09am
Subject: Re: Does a ground fresh roasted bean degas more quickly than a whole fresh bean?
 

Frost Said:

Yes, this does work and is  commonly done for roasts that are 'too fresh'; Grind 15-20 minutes before brewing.
I only use this for roasts less that 3 days old though. It helps for better extraction to reduce the CO2, but still not the same flavor balance as waiting the extra few days rest.

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I concur.  My results have been hit and miss when I try to degas too fresh beans this way.

 
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Posted Fri Jan 3, 2014, 8:33am
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Thanks, well i am not going without so i am going to give it a swing.

 
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Posted Fri Jan 3, 2014, 10:24am
Subject: Re: Does a ground fresh roasted bean degas more quickly than a whole fresh bean?
 

This morning's fresh roast coffee was barely 3 days out of the roaster and pulled just fine without any wait.
A bit snappy and fruit forward.
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