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Posted Mon Jan 6, 2014, 8:58pm
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I've spent some time searching various topics here, and found some good info that has really helped me. One is the infographic at clivecoffee that charts brew times, over and under extraction, dosages, etc. I'm still unsure of how to properly time my brew though. I assume it starts when the water first hits the grinds, but when should I consider the brew time done? My TV tends to drip for quite a while, even after the majority of the water has passed into the carafe. How much of this drip time is considered "brew time" for the charts purposes? I did search the topic, but never found an explanation.

Granted, with the TV, it controls dosing the water. I wanna say right at 4 1/2 minutes for a liter through a filter with no coffee grinds, not counting most of the dripping. So even with just a moderate amount of coffee, even at a fairly course grind, it's really easy to hit the 5 minute mark, shown in the infographic.

Anyway, as I'm trying different beans (freshly roasted), from a local micro roaster, and I need to adjust for strength and such, and referring to this chart to assist, I am just wanting to make sure I'm timing the brew correctly.
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Posted Tue Jan 7, 2014, 9:21am
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I would consider the brew done when the majority of the water is done, most drip brewers drip a few drops after that.  You could simply remove the brew basket?

As far as time, how does the brew taste?  I'd adjust the amount of coffee used, or grind size, to taste.  For a full pot of automatic drip you don't sound too far off.

 
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Posted Tue Jan 7, 2014, 10:10am
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How do they taste?? Well, I dialed it in pretty good with an espresso blend. It took a while, but finally got it sweet and no nasty aftertaste. These beans from a non roasting supplier, with big hoppers of beans along the wall.

Found a roaster about two miles from the house, and bought some Ethiopia Natural Sidamo Adem Chilcho, roasted The day before yesterday. At the same ratio and settings, although it taste GREAT, it could use some more strength. The beans smell like strawberry, and there is a sweetness to the brew with a mild moderate aftertaste, not sure about acidity and body, as I'm learning and not really sure about the real meaning of those terms. I don't want to waste these beans, with uneducated guesses on what to do with the grind/ratio. Not exactly cheap, by my standards anyway. The brew was just under 5 minutes.

I picked up some of this roasters Ambergris Espresso Blend, to see how it compared to the "generic" I was using from the other supplier. At the same settings and ratio..... Yukkk!!!!! I may have well just dumped an ashtray in a pot of hot water. Taste like it. Feels like it on my mouth. For some reason, the brew took 6 1/2 minutes, all else being the same, other than the bean.

So apparently I'm going to have to adjust the grind/ratio, with various beans.
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Posted Tue Jan 7, 2014, 1:26pm
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No you shouldn't have to adjust very much, for my manual pour over system my grind size and amount used is a fixed number.

Sounds like you just need to add a bit more coffee.

 
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