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mauijer
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Posted Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:28pm
Subject: Updates in Portable Espresso?
 

It seems the winner thus far has been the mypressi twist v2; although requiring air cartridges, it's small size lends itself easily to travel, office, camping etc. however, there are other products out there such as the (rebranded) Rok and the new Nomad among several other less known contraptions. I've seen some prior reviews but nothing recent regarding the newer models. Is Mypressi still the reigning champion or has anyone done a head to head comparison of these models.

While weight and bulk play a role, crema, taste and thermostability would be the only findings which I'm interested in. I have a decent home setup but want a solution for an upcoming cruise and future trips. BTW Mypressi is out of stock currently but I think a head to head definitive commentary on the updated models, especially if anyone can comment on the Nomad, would be a great reference for online researchers.
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Posted Tue Jun 17, 2014, 3:02pm
Subject: Re: Updates in Portable Espresso?
 

You should probably check into this system as well... http://www.portaspresso.com/

I say this not knowing your budget, as it's a bit more expensive.

I haven't used it, but it sounds like an awesome travel set.  Perhaps you can find some reviews on it.  I know there was a hand grinder review on Home-Barista several years ago that included the Rosco, and from what I remember it did quite well.  I think it was called something like...grinder road show. Of course, that only tells you about the Rosco, not the Rossa.

 
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Posted Tue Jun 17, 2014, 7:08pm
Subject: Re: Updates in Portable Espresso?
 

Thanks Ron,

That does look like an awesome system; albeit, more expensive than I had anticipated. However, if his claims are validated about quality it would make for a meaningful lifelong investment for travel. It certainly looks sturdy. Thanks so much for sharing. This is exactly what I was hoping to achieve by this post: new products and a focus on quality. I'm excited to hear from those who have tried it; especially if anyone has tried the other options for comparison. Now if only we could get the owner to send a couple over for a trial...

Thanks again
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Posted Tue Jun 17, 2014, 7:33pm
Subject: Re: Updates in Portable Espresso?
 

The cup result of the Rossa is more like machines in the north of $1.5k USD, better even because it allows pressure profiling (which makes a big diference to the taste btw). It just happens to be portable setup. Entirely different category from other portable setup if you ask me.

My previous machine prior to Rossa PG upgrade is Caravel. I felt the Rossa beats the Caravel a few levels ahead. Bigger shot volume is one, but the taste, flexibility and control is much superior. And the Caravel is much touted, so...

Temperature control is easily achieve, and quite stable at that. 200F reading on the thermometer is 200F that touches the coffee. No offset needed (even the Caravel has some temperature offset).

But that being said, it's not for everyone. It involves a bit more labor than pressing a button or pulling a lever - the pre-warm ritual , the hand cranking(or pumping) - too much for some, acceptable for others, fine by me. The shot quality is excellent if you get over that. Moreover, you get to enjoy that even if you're travelling - its portable so you can bring along.

It's like the Pharos grinder IMO - more manual/work to use, but the result is up par with the Titans. Similarly, if you compare Pharos to Hario grinder, of course it looks more expensive. But it's a different beast. Same with Portaspresso.

No problem with the Rosco Mini grinder. Just perfect burr alignment and perfect (almost) ergonomic. Taste is probably a notch down the titan conical (for separation), but better than 80% of the grinders out there.
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Posted Tue Jun 17, 2014, 11:58pm
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While I am a fan of portable espresso, from what I've seen, I am not too impressed with the Nomad..
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Posted Wed Jun 18, 2014, 2:27am
Subject: Re: Updates in Portable Espresso?
 

I am a fan of the Aerobie Aeropress. While not a true espresso, it can produce a bitter free coffee concentrate that is delicious. It is one of the most cost effective coffee "machines" around.

 
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Posted Wed Jun 18, 2014, 9:25am
Subject: Re: Updates in Portable Espresso?
 

Thanks QK,

That's very helpful. I appreciate the commentary about the thermostability and quality of espresso.

I like how the rosco results in a very clean setup with a slight autotamp into the basket from the videos. Plus the mini is small and more portable for a suitcase etc. It's a bit pricey compared to other hand grinders tho. I agree the pharos would be nice for road trips but for a carryon/suitcase it's a little prohibitive. For at least my immediate trip and most plane flights I would be interested in a high quality mini type grinder. How does the hario compare to the Rosco mini? Im not opposed to a little more manual labor for an improved flavor. QK did you get the tripod stand?

As for the Aeropress, I have tried it once. However, the rich crema mouthfeel of an espresso is irreplacable for me. Thanks for the suggestion tho.
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Posted Thu Jun 19, 2014, 7:29am
Subject: Re: Updates in Portable Espresso?
 

Glad that helps!

Rosco Mini is a very good grinder for the price (it should!!). Ergonomic, adjustability and grind consistency are very good, but I do wish it's a tad lighter (it's 1kg). So I am not sure I will even consider the full-sized Rosco due to its weight! Tho like you, the idea of direct dosing is very tempting.

It's almost a non-comparison for Hario vs Rosco Mini. I had a Hario Mini but sold it off soon after. I personally don't consider Hario Mini for espresso if I can help it. It can grind espresso no problem, but the step size is too wide (require fussing with the dose and tamp to compensate for the right flow) and isn't very consistent. It takes about 2-3 minutes for grinding, vs 45 seconds on Rosco Mini. Big no-no for me. And lastly, the Hario Mini won't last long for espresso grinding - the handle and grind consistency suffer after a year of use from what I gathered.

If waiting is no issue (long queue and limited production), Hausgrind seems to be quite close to Rosco Mini in terms of ergonomic and performance , but at a cheaper cost.  Rosco Mini is on the expensive spectrum, but the built quality easily justify it. If you can see it in flesh I don't think you will feel it's expensive anymore. And right now, I find no better solution for mini+performance hand grinder than the Rosco Mini.

Lido 2 is a portable grinder and performs well too, but the size and weight don't exactly fit into the 'mini' family.


I have the tripod stand. Nice to have. But not as easy to transport - you can unscrew and screw the legs but it's troublesome. Rossa Air doesn't need it, but will be extremely helpful if you go for Rossa HC.
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Posted Mon Jun 23, 2014, 8:37pm
Subject: Re: Updates in Portable Espresso?
 

Thanks again for the great information. Got side tracked looking at reviews and visiting the Knock Facebook to look at the Hausgrind grinder lol. This would shave off a about one hundred US dollars and be a bit lighter in a carry-on bag. I do appreciate the brass of the Rosco Mini; however, the natural wood does also have a nice feel for a hand grinder. If this produces a comparable grind, is equally compact, and is lighter in weight at a lower cost then that may be the direction I go.

As for the espresso maker, I'm thinking the Rossa HC is probably the best for carry on luggage and air travel. Although, for the daily work place setting the Rossa Air offers some advantages in control and ease of use and overall prep time. Also, I would think a naked PF on the Rossa HC would be pretty worthless for diagnostic purposes since you can't see it while in operation; however, I would still probably go that direction since I prefer the mouthfeel from a naked PF on my home set up. Although, as some have reported difficulty without using the tripod I would assume a Naked PF would also make this more difficult if using a standard espresso cup.

Thanks again and I appreciate the practical tips. If you have any other advise/considerations I would love to hear them.
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Posted Fri Jun 27, 2014, 6:13am
Subject: Re: Updates in Portable Espresso?
 

Either get a good hand grinder (Maybe you'd already have one?) and a Mypressi Twist, GSI Outdoors Moka Pot,Portaspresso,ROK Manual Espresso.


Good luck,

 
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